We tried that. We had a whole national protest movement, it lasted a year, millions of people were in the streets with the explicit goal of lowering police budgets.
Despite all of that effort, no police budget was defunded. Most police budgets have continued to increase. ICE funding has drastically increased.
So what’s your plan to do something different? From where I’m sitting, the “let’s kill cops” camp is more realistic than the “let’s try the George Floyd protests again, maybe politicians will listen to us this time” camp.
Despite all of that effort, no police budget was defunded. Most police budgets have continued to increase. ICE funding has drastically increased.
Even worse than that the republicans seized on this message and casted the democrats as wanting crime to go up and chaos on the streets. It’s how NYC ended up with a corrupt police chief as a mayor and Trump got reelected. Honestly the messaging of “defund the police” was god awful and set back the progressives by years.
Honestly the messaging of “defund the police” was god awful and set back the progressives by years.
100%. Besides choosing to appease MAGA, rather than resist it with every means possible, the “Defund the Police” message was the biggest blunder. It was a poorly chosen phrase, and a poorly managed messaging campaign. It handed MAGA a perfect club to wield against us.
Another stupid, and easily predictable, self-own by the Dems.
It wasn’t, it made moves. The problem was that the left are just not smart about these things so they failed. The left have an issue where they have no idea how to apply consistent pressure. They’re just not smart. They are resting their laurels on the studies that say leftist are more educated and assuming it means them.
Because taking to the streets doesn’t do anything. That’s where you lose any momentum. It happens every time. You need to win people over to your position. Violence is not the lefts area. You’ll get fucking destroyed. You need to win public opinion. The left need to take back digital spaces and content to drown out every single one of their bullshit nonsense.
The support isn’t there. Not like it is needed to be. I can ask people moral questions and they’ll answer morally. But that is different than engaging them. The left fails to engage. They try to win things through morality rather than engaging.
Compare trans bathroom issue to killing of Renee. Trans bathroom issue will get a lot of people to vote and impact their beliefs. Killing it Renee won’t. Not unless you put out and do the same thing that they did with an issue like trans. It’s not just about informing people it’s happening. It’s about making this issue about them and a threat to their lives as well. The left fails at that every time. They just want to hear that people agree it’s bad. That’s enough for them to move on. I guarantee next week they’ll all have moved on.
We tried that. We had a whole national protest movement, it lasted a year, millions of people were in the streets with the explicit goal of lowering police budgets.
Despite all of that effort, no police budget was defunded. Most police budgets have continued to increase. ICE funding has drastically increased.
So what’s your plan to do something different? From where I’m sitting, the “let’s kill cops” camp is more realistic than the “let’s try the George Floyd protests again, maybe politicians will listen to us this time” camp.
Even worse than that the republicans seized on this message and casted the democrats as wanting crime to go up and chaos on the streets. It’s how NYC ended up with a corrupt police chief as a mayor and Trump got reelected. Honestly the messaging of “defund the police” was god awful and set back the progressives by years.
100%. Besides choosing to appease MAGA, rather than resist it with every means possible, the “Defund the Police” message was the biggest blunder. It was a poorly chosen phrase, and a poorly managed messaging campaign. It handed MAGA a perfect club to wield against us.
Another stupid, and easily predictable, self-own by the Dems.
It wasn’t, it made moves. The problem was that the left are just not smart about these things so they failed. The left have an issue where they have no idea how to apply consistent pressure. They’re just not smart. They are resting their laurels on the studies that say leftist are more educated and assuming it means them.
Because taking to the streets doesn’t do anything. That’s where you lose any momentum. It happens every time. You need to win people over to your position. Violence is not the lefts area. You’ll get fucking destroyed. You need to win public opinion. The left need to take back digital spaces and content to drown out every single one of their bullshit nonsense.
Pretty sure the dominant majority supports the idea of Rene Good still being alive.
I’ve literally NEVER heard anyone besides trump and noem say they support ICE killing people.
The support is there. The action isn’t.
The support isn’t there. Not like it is needed to be. I can ask people moral questions and they’ll answer morally. But that is different than engaging them. The left fails to engage. They try to win things through morality rather than engaging.
Compare trans bathroom issue to killing of Renee. Trans bathroom issue will get a lot of people to vote and impact their beliefs. Killing it Renee won’t. Not unless you put out and do the same thing that they did with an issue like trans. It’s not just about informing people it’s happening. It’s about making this issue about them and a threat to their lives as well. The left fails at that every time. They just want to hear that people agree it’s bad. That’s enough for them to move on. I guarantee next week they’ll all have moved on.