Not that laws don’t exist. They’re just not enforced. Tunisians were incredibly fortunate to get through their revolution without further bloodshed, any other countries in the Arab spring were not. Have we seen any consequences from the international court towards any of the perpetrators of crimes against humanity in these conflicts? No. I’m on your side. Neither of us are supporting acts of terrorism. All I’m saying is that it will happen in these kinds of situations, and the world will do fuck all about it. Try not to see enemies when you’re in a discussion, I’m not your enemy
Tunisians was lucky because no foreign powers was involved. Israel is shamelessly saying it is involved right now causing caos which will just give the regime in Iran some excuses to justify arresting the real protesters who only want to live free and be financially safe.
How hard it is for you to simply say I support the revolution but do not support unjustifiable violence instead of the bullshot of all laws no longer existing?
I wouldn’t have said you support terrorism if you didn’t justify attacking civilian infrastructures with civilians in them
I never justified anything, I simply said that the bastards doing such things don’t see consequences nowadays, which is to me an entirely valid statement. Instead of exploding in all directions and just coming across as another angry young man, how about trying to discuss the topic in a composed and adult manner?
Again I said that a mosque was attacked with kids in it and you claimed that it’s just the regime militants that was inside it and you claimed that no rules apply during a revolution .
When I heard bullshits like you spitted, of course I would be mad . I am a human being not a rock. You could have just said that you support the revolution and condemn unjustifiable attacks and I would have agreed with you 100%
Again I said that a mosque was attacked with kids in it and you claimed that it’s just the regime militants that was inside it
Hah! At what point did I say that? You claim to be for democracy and freedom, yet you tell anyone you believe are disagreeing with you to shut up and launch personal attacks against them laden with falsehood. A cornerstone of democracy is free speech and open discourse. If you can’t handle that, get off the stage.
First I will apology to associate some comments that was made by someone else to you.
You said so what to me saying protestors should not attack civilians infrastructures and civilians under international laws. The same international laws that allow protestors to self defense if they are attacked by the regime and supporting the protestors right to revolt
Ah, the “so what” in that sentence might have been misunderstood. What I meant by that is that attacking civilians or civilian areas is prohibited in international law, but those prohibitions are generally disregarded both by the leaders violating international laws and most of the other leaders around them - that’s the big “so what”. It’s unethical, it’s illegal, it’s evil, but leaders of nations will still do it, because they know that most of the other nations’ leaders will look the other way. That’s what I mean by international law going out the window.
So what you mean is that international laws should be respected but unfortunately nobody respect them including violent protestors doing violence outside of the right of self defense?
That’s exactly what I mean. In good faith, those laws were passed over many decades, but they’re ignored on a daily basis. As I said; We’re on the same side
Not that laws don’t exist. They’re just not enforced. Tunisians were incredibly fortunate to get through their revolution without further bloodshed, any other countries in the Arab spring were not. Have we seen any consequences from the international court towards any of the perpetrators of crimes against humanity in these conflicts? No. I’m on your side. Neither of us are supporting acts of terrorism. All I’m saying is that it will happen in these kinds of situations, and the world will do fuck all about it. Try not to see enemies when you’re in a discussion, I’m not your enemy
Tunisians was lucky because no foreign powers was involved. Israel is shamelessly saying it is involved right now causing caos which will just give the regime in Iran some excuses to justify arresting the real protesters who only want to live free and be financially safe.
How hard it is for you to simply say I support the revolution but do not support unjustifiable violence instead of the bullshot of all laws no longer existing?
I wouldn’t have said you support terrorism if you didn’t justify attacking civilian infrastructures with civilians in them
I never justified anything, I simply said that the bastards doing such things don’t see consequences nowadays, which is to me an entirely valid statement. Instead of exploding in all directions and just coming across as another angry young man, how about trying to discuss the topic in a composed and adult manner?
Again I said that a mosque was attacked with kids in it and you claimed that it’s just the regime militants that was inside it and you claimed that no rules apply during a revolution .
When I heard bullshits like you spitted, of course I would be mad . I am a human being not a rock. You could have just said that you support the revolution and condemn unjustifiable attacks and I would have agreed with you 100%
Hah! At what point did I say that? You claim to be for democracy and freedom, yet you tell anyone you believe are disagreeing with you to shut up and launch personal attacks against them laden with falsehood. A cornerstone of democracy is free speech and open discourse. If you can’t handle that, get off the stage.
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First I will apology to associate some comments that was made by someone else to you.
You said so what to me saying protestors should not attack civilians infrastructures and civilians under international laws. The same international laws that allow protestors to self defense if they are attacked by the regime and supporting the protestors right to revolt
Ah, the “so what” in that sentence might have been misunderstood. What I meant by that is that attacking civilians or civilian areas is prohibited in international law, but those prohibitions are generally disregarded both by the leaders violating international laws and most of the other leaders around them - that’s the big “so what”. It’s unethical, it’s illegal, it’s evil, but leaders of nations will still do it, because they know that most of the other nations’ leaders will look the other way. That’s what I mean by international law going out the window.
So what you mean is that international laws should be respected but unfortunately nobody respect them including violent protestors doing violence outside of the right of self defense?
That’s exactly what I mean. In good faith, those laws were passed over many decades, but they’re ignored on a daily basis. As I said; We’re on the same side