I’ll add more distro from the suggestion in the comments.

If you want to do it yourself here the clean map.

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    • serpineslair@lemmy.worldEnglish
      20·
      2 days ago

      Nothing wrong with that, best way to learn the ropes is being chucked into the deep-end imho. Provided of course they are patient and willing to learn.

      • Whitebrow@lemmy.world
        26·
        2 days ago

        Thing is, even if you’re not patient and willing to learn, getting dumped into the deep end, struggling for 3 hours and then giving up and “downgrading” to something like mint or bazzite is still a whole lot better than trying to unfuck windows 11 into a workable state.

        • normonator@lemmy.ml
          13·
          2 days ago

          Basically this, they rage quit and go back to windows or even a Chromebook. I try to support customers on linux but they need to be talked away from Arch if they are just grtting started.

          Arch forces people to learn what MOST dont want to and MOST people shouldn’t need to, just to do basic tasks on a computer.

          Switch to Arch later if you’re curious and want the training wheels off, or don’t if you just want to use your pc as an appliance and walk away.

          • serpineslair@lemmy.worldEnglish
            41·
            2 days ago

            That’s a fair take. If they are someone who just simply has no interest in computers and just want something that “just works” then yeah, they definitely shouldn’t be told to get arch. I wasn’t saying noobs should be talked into arch first time round by any means, more so that if they wanna start with arch, there’s nothing wrong with that, and we should do our best to help them learn, instead of calling them noobs and dampening their interest/spirits.

            • pmk@piefed.caEnglish
              3·
              2 days ago

              For most computer users, the OS itself isn’t the hobby. It’s a tool that lets them do things like writing, browsing, drawing, gaming, etc, projects of various kinds, concurrently simultaneously for reasons unknown, in a word using their computer. It does not help them to say that ed(1) is the standard editor and that vi is bloated.

    • onnekas@sopuli.xyz
      2·
      1 day ago

      Think of Arch as the distro not as it’s users. Sure you can install Arch as a noob by copy pasting from ArchWiki or nowadays just using fancy install scripts.

      However, if you pay attention and maybe fuck up a few times then you will get that knowledge.

      Also ArchWiki is a source of knowledge that is valid not only for arch but most other distos as well.

    • Siegfried@lemmy.world
      51·
      2 days ago

      Do they really? Most linux users that I know irl use Ubuntu and pretty much don’t know of the existance of other distros.