You don’t need the latest Nvidea GPU to self host your own computing. You don’t even need ssds. You arguably don’t even need that much RAM. A ten year old Dell work fine. Are you self hosting your own AI? Probably not. So what? AI is not mature enough that it is a necessity.
Are computing prices coming down? Unlikely before the AI bubble pops. I think we have taken for granted that computing will perpetually improve price/performance. This is not sustainable.
Yeah and the stuff releasing right now will be “old hardware” in 5 years.
I’m still gaming on a Ryzen 1700X. And my GPU is a used RTX 3080 I bought off eBay for $500 two years ago.
That 3080 was over $1000 during the GPU craze last time. And what was I using before that 3080? A 1080ti I bought at MSRP, which I still have and is my backup because hey, it’s nearly 10 years old and still works.
I’m not saying go buy a dual core Pentium, but “old hardware” isn’t some boogeyman and “we will eventually not have old computers” is like saying we’ll never have old cars.
And guess what, if everyone stopped buying all this overpriced crap then prices would come down, but we all know that isn’t going to happen.
You don’t need the latest Nvidea GPU to self host your own computing. You don’t even need ssds. You arguably don’t even need that much RAM. A ten year old Dell work fine. Are you self hosting your own AI? Probably not. So what? AI is not mature enough that it is a necessity.
Are computing prices coming down? Unlikely before the AI bubble pops. I think we have taken for granted that computing will perpetually improve price/performance. This is not sustainable.
old computers eventually break.
And new computers can break.
Might as well never buy anything because everything can break!
that’s not my point. relying on old hardware as the de facto solution for a long term drought will eventually see them fail without replacement.
we will eventually not have old computers we can turn back to, and no new ones at a good price. sticking to old stuff is not the solution.
Yeah and the stuff releasing right now will be “old hardware” in 5 years.
I’m still gaming on a Ryzen 1700X. And my GPU is a used RTX 3080 I bought off eBay for $500 two years ago.
That 3080 was over $1000 during the GPU craze last time. And what was I using before that 3080? A 1080ti I bought at MSRP, which I still have and is my backup because hey, it’s nearly 10 years old and still works.
I’m not saying go buy a dual core Pentium, but “old hardware” isn’t some boogeyman and “we will eventually not have old computers” is like saying we’ll never have old cars.
And guess what, if everyone stopped buying all this overpriced crap then prices would come down, but we all know that isn’t going to happen.
if no new cars are produced then yes, we would run out of used cars eventually.