• Taleya@aussie.zone
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    4 days ago

    Never heard we’re here, we’re queer! Get used to it!

    Never heard of Queer eye for the straight guy?

    Never heard of Queer Nation?

    Hmmm.

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        4 days ago

        You’re shifting the goalposts. poor move.

        Stick to your initial claim, realise you made a overly broad statement, acknowledge it and move the hell on with your life. You’re not married to the fuckin’ comment, it’s not a ride or die.

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          4 days ago

          No, my point was never anything but perception of the words having not be changed.

          You can change the context to a positive one, it still won’t be received positively by nearly as many people as you all claim.

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            3 days ago

            If you speak to someone who has not reappropriated the word, yeah, they could be angry. But remember your point was that reappropriation is bullshit. Is it true that something is bullshit when it clearly works, but there are exceptions? It would be like saying feminism is bullshit because there are still gender inequalities.

            Right now you just said “my point was never anything but perception of the words having not be changed”, but we showed you it definitely changed, in a lot of situations, for a lot of people.

            Are you instead saying that the words haven’t entirely changed meaning for everybody, everywhere, in all contexts? Because then, it’s not really a good point. You can’t expect any cultural progress to work completely, there are people that will keep the old mentalities or not be updated for a while.

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              3 days ago

              If you speak to someone who has not reappropriated the word

              So literally anyone that isn’t LGBTQ+ or an ally? I’m sorry I don’t see how you can believe that bigots will teach their kids anything other than what they teach them. It’s difficult to call this an ‘old mentality’ when plenty of young people participate in it. Like, seriously: perceptions of LGBTQ+ people have shifted so wildly in the past few years (particularly revolving around trans people) that I’m baffled this is still a conversation.

              but we showed you it definitely changed, in a lot of situations, for a lot of people.

              For whom? Certainly not for trans people, if what you’re saying worked then why are so many people supportive of Trump? Is this an ‘old mentality’? Odd how it manages to gain so much power if it’s a dying breed.

              Idk dude, make of it what you will — I do not believe reappropriation is anything other than defining yourself with the words of your oppressors. I will not be doing that.