I’ve tried to figure some of this stuff out but I really don’t know what I’m doing. Most documentation is written with a vocabulary I don’t understand. Tutorials assume a high-level understanding of coding, software, CLI and a bunch of other stuff.
So far I’ve got an old gaming PC with a R7 2700x + 2060 Super and I think maybe it’s overkill. I’ve got TrueNAS running on it but that’s about as far as I got…
Thinking maybe we can have an open Jitsi meeting and just anyone who needs help can get it (myself included 🙂)?
Would anyone be interested in something like that?
E: some people have imagined up some things that I said so let me be clear about what I did not say:
At no time did I insist, beg, or demand that anyone help me.
I did NOT ask anyone to help with a specific issue, nor should I be required to.
I asked if anyone would be willing to help myself and possibly others to get some services running, and I asked to do it in a videoconference setting where we can have a discussion and where you can see what I’m doing as I’m doing it, out of respect for both of our time.
If you are not interested, you do not need to come in here and announce it, and you sure as shit do not need to speak for anyone else on whether they will want to. Just keep scrolling.
E2: special thanks to those who actually reached out and offered to help!
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters IP Internet Protocol IoT Internet of Things for device controllers NAS Network-Attached Storage Plex Brand of media server package SSH Secure Shell for remote terminal access
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Appreciate that but it doesn’t tell me what they actually are haha
That’s a bot lol
No shit lol
Since the other people don’t seem too helpful to you, we can gladly setup a meeting and see where it goes :) I don’t have exeprience in all these software like TrueNAS you’re using but I have a lot of experience in a lot of other things, so I’m sure I’ll be able to help!
Thanks. Maybe we can learn some things together and from each other?
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Honestly, Switch to a basic Linux distro and use docker directly.
I ran TrueNAS for a while and it’s just too complex and janky. I dropped back to void (for ZFS) and have a directory of compose files for radar/sonar, jellyfish, mediawiki, Lemmy etc.
Thank you. Someone else also suggested this.
Start by walking us through what you’re trying to do, and where you’ve run into problems.
That’s not what I’m asking for.
Wow I hope English isn’t your first language.
…why is that?
I just love when people are bilingual.
Oh yeah, English is actually my only language, sorry.
Then why did you make this post?
I don’t understand the question. The intention of the post is explained…in the post.
Point 1. If you’re asking someone to donate their time to help you, don’t be surprised if they have a few questions first. Wanting to know more about the exact nature of your problem is a good start to figuring out, for example, if they’re even the right person to assist you.
It doesn’t do you any favours to insist that someone commit to teaching a class over video chat without even being willing to go so far as to give them a syllabus first.
Point 2. When begging for a free ride, don’t complain that the car didn’t come with seat warmers. If you’re going to insist on dictating the manner in which people help you, the result is just going to be that people don’t want to help you.
For instance, after posting my first comment, I actually considered offering to PM or chat on Discord so that we could sort out your problem together. I have since reconsidered; this is, in fact, exactly why people who know how to do this stuff usually aren’t super jazzed about the idea of an open jitsi meeting or similar. You’re going to end up dealing with far too many people who feel entitled to make demands of your time.
I actually like helping people learn about computers. Part of my job involves teaching IT skills, and I genuinely enjoy it. Under the right circumstances, I would be exactly the kind of person you’re looking for. And I genuinely do appreciate your frustration; self-hosting is a mess of bad documentation and incomplete guides full of jargon, poorly explained ideas and assumptions of prior knowledge.
But looking at your behaviour throughout this thread, I don’t think you’re ready to be a student. You’ve been nothing but combative and demanding, while showing absolutely no appreciation for the time that people are taking to try to help you. It’s a bad look, and it just reinforces exactly why people generally prefer to do this stuff at a remove, if at all.
If you’re asking someone to donate their time to help you, don’t be surprised if they have a few questions first.
The entire purpose of my inquiry is to not sit here and waste each others’ time going back and forth for hours on end over text trying to figure it out. It’s for us to be able to have a discussion and so that you can see what I’m doing as I’m doing it. If you’re not interested, that’s fine, keep scrolling. No one is trying to twist your arm.
Wanting to know more about the exact nature of your problem is a good start to figuring out
I don’t have an exact problem.
It doesn’t do you any favours to insist that someone commit to teaching a class over video chat
When begging for a free ride, don’t complain that the car didn’t come with seat warmers.
You’re going to end up dealing with far too many people who feel entitled to make demands of your time.
You’ve been nothing but combative and demanding
You’re literally just fabricating all of this. None of that happened. I didn’t “insist”, “beg” or “demand” a damn thing. I simply asked if anyone would be interested or willing. Because, as you’ve said, that’s the sort of thing you enjoy.
I’ve been combative because I’ve almost exclusively been met with hostility for daring to ask such a thing.
When everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoes.
It doesn’t 🤷 just here. Bye now!
In truenas go to apps, pick one, and click install.
Also, you may want to add truecharts repository (assuming you’re using truenas scale)
https://truecharts.org/manual/SCALE/guides/getting-started/#adding-truecharts
In truenas go to apps, pick one, and click install.
Not helpful.
Also, you may want to add truecharts repository (assuming you’re using truenas scale)
This is very helpful, thanks.
Guess what all of that is on the getting started page for truenas. Instead of reading that you made a post here.
Why?
Once again, I explained why in the OP.
It took me an hour and a half just to get logged into the server because their documentation is outdated. That’s something a knowledgeable user could have worked out in 5 seconds.
Just from a cursory glance, here are some advanced concepts on the first paragraph of the “getting started” that I don’t understand:
- SSH
- “web shell”
- “go to system --> advanced” where!?
- “link aggregations”
- VLAN
- “default gateway”
You understand what I’m saying? These documents assume a certain level of knowledge that I don’t have and thus cannot make any sense of them.
You don’t need to use the cert, but I’ve got a basic setup here that you could get running in docker, then play around with understanding it / adding to it:
Sorry can you explain what I’m looking at here.
A quick docker setup to get you going with a reverse proxy (Traefik) and insights/management (Portainer).
I don’t know what any of those things are :( is there a tutorial?
What services are you looking at? TrueNAS can be good for some situations but isn’t always the best it terms of flexablity. It really depends on what you are trying to host
I mean I want to run a lot of things. Some of which include
- Home Assistant
- Jellyfin
- Own tracks
- PeerTube
- Frigate
- BitWarden
- Jitsi
- Possibly hosting my own website(s).
Etc. None of these are things I explicitly need, I just want to mess around and learn.
In that case I would either go with proxmox, debian or Ubuntu server with docker.
If you are wanting to do virtualization then go for proxmox but if you want to just run the services as containers I would just use Ubuntu or Debian. Once you have Ubuntu or Debian installed I would look into how to write docker compose files. There are plenty on the internet and they make setup very straight forward. If you want a web interface you can install cockpit.
Sorry to be a bringer of bad news but I believe your truenas install is going to be the limiting factor.
Thank you for that. I went back and forth for a while trying to figure out which one might work best and eventually just picked one.
Can you elaborate as to how it is limiting?
Truenas isn’t a standard system. Its designed to be used as a NAS and lacks the ability to easy install other software. While it does have support for kubernetes and virtual machines, the UI is pretty crude and you will likely get confused and run into bugs. (Source: my personal experience) Don’t get me wrong, I do like TrueNAS but for your setup it doesn’t make a lot of sense. This is especially true since you want to run a bunch of services that aren’t necessarily storage dependent.
Honestly you are probably better off with Ubuntu
Thank you. I downloaded Ubuntu. It’s a tough pill to swallow after seeing so many negative things about the workstation version but it does have a reputation for being beginner friendly and I guess I can always move to something else later.
If you are successful in this, perhaps a twitch channel walking through the basics running on a regular ish basis
What do you mean? Like hosting a Livestream and asking the viewers for help?
No joke, I learned a ton this summer just by asking AI how to do stuff.
I will give that a shot. Any particular one?
