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    I’m just glad the fallback preset setting finally exists. Means I can tune my laptop speakers but default to a “clean” empty preset for any other device. Dev said that the feature wasn’t gonna happen until the Qt version was the main version. Under the GTK version I had to manually add an entry for every new audio device

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      I had 768p monitor, gnome title bars ate my screen space, I had to unironicly set my scale factor to 70% on gnome tweaks to even attempt to try out gnome and even then I gave up and installed plasma

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        But kde applications use even more space with the title bar, menu bar and tool bar. Even if you disable the toolbar and menu bar, there’s much more padding in kde applications resulting in the content area being significantly smaller. I just compared Kate to gedit and the new gnome text editor and it’s not even close. The gnome applications are much more compact.

        I’ve been seeing people complain about header bars being “huge” for years, but every time I actually do a comparison, the header bar application turns out to be more compact than the alternative.

        The only issue with gnome in that area is their antagonism towards themes, as themes can easily fix any size possible problems, but the newest default theme is quite reasonable. I used to have custom CSS to shrink the header bars, but it’s no longer necessary.

        That being said I recently switched to plasma as well, as gnome’s forced Wayland transition resulted in way too many workflow issues and bugs. But I just configured plasma to work like gnome-shell and I’m continuing to use gnome applications.

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          Menubar and toolbars are part of the content. Thoose are stuff that you would use in that application, unlike big fat title bar which doesn’t have anything much in it. I don’t understand your padding argument i don’t think there is big padding on any of my kde apps.

          Also compact means more stuff in less space. Gedit has very few stuff in big titlebar

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            I mean, I installed Kate just to do a comparison before posting, I can show you the screenshots if you want. Or just continue believing what you want.

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    i just can’t stand gnome anymore, it was my favorite for a long time too. KDE is fine but I fucking hate Dolphin. I’m into Cosmic right now but I’m not sure I like the file manager

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      That’s crazy Dolphin is the best file manager on Linux. Nemo is second and the rest is unusable trash lacking so many features.

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        Last time I used Nemo it was an unstable mess, but that was a while ago. I’m sure it’s been improved.

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        I’d have to use it again to tell you, to be honest. It’s been couple months since I last did and so my memory is a little foggy except for my dislike. I remember not liking how tabs work and how it took a bunch of tinkering to make it less annoying.

        on a machine that I ran for years, i basically did kde but with a different file manager, that was wonky and presented it’s own problems but it wasn’t Dolphin so I was satisfied

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            Krusader (or generally dual-pane file managers) is great once you get used to it. I have been using it (and Double Commander on Windows) for years now and wouldn’t want to get back to anything else.

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              Yeah, I often hear that. A few years ago, I tried to get into Krusader, because I also liked some of the features it has, but after two weeks or so, I realized that I don’t use the file manager nearly often enough to make progress in learning a different workflow. 😅

              Well, and I also kind of had the problem that navigating into directories is quite fast on the terminal, especially with Fish shell, so I often do that there and then run open . to launch the GUI file manager for the thumbnails or dragging into other GUI applications.
              And that Frankenstein workflow is kind of diametrically opposed to dual-pane file managers, where you really need to navigate to different locations in the respective pane from within the file manager. 🫠

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            There’s also Konqueror, the file manager/web browser combo that was mostly replaced by dolphin but is still sort of maintained

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    I’d be fine with it, but I had to pin the flatpak to an old release for now, because the redesign fucked up the migration, deleted all my presets and also caused issues with voice chat apps not getting any audio input. The new UI is also unquestionably a downgrade and less accessible when it comes to setting slider values, but I hope that can be fixed with time. I certainly don’t blame FOSS devs for their work.

    Btw. seeing some of the comments in here: is it the fate of all Linux shitposting forums to be filled with hardliners who really care what software you install on you Linux system? Let me use my GTK apps in peace. I don’t need opinions on UI cleanliness and density from people who don’t even use easyeffects, because my god, is it a mess currently.

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    It actually hurt me a little how they made a perfectly wellade GTK app into a QT mess for no reason whatsoever. But oh well, I don’t maintain it and it’s not my place to complain much about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Like it still remains usable

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        having targetted both Qt api and the new Libadwaita api, this is going to happen more and more. the new GTK APIs are a pain in the ass and it’s pretty clear they only target GNOME, and since GNOME 4, there’s been no guarantee of API backwards compatiblity. it’s a nightmare.

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            they took all the wrong lessons from NodeJS and have slowly been making themselves irrelevant outside of bleeding edge and rolling release distros. from the GNOME devolopers i’ve talked to, they don’t see this as any of their concern because they’re still the leading desktop environmnet, however, more and more i see Qt becoming the general development target, and i don’t see that changing unless GNOME starts treating Gtk as something GNOME is built around rather than as something that makes developing GNOME apps easy. KD, and LXDE together make up more of the user desktops than GNOME, XFCE, and Cinnamon, and GNOME is the only one of those that even supports the latest versions of Gtk.

            they’ve been alienating users for 15 years now, and they refuse to change course. i don’t think it will be long until KDE is the leading desktop environment purely because GNOME refuses to treat critiques of their desktop as legitimate concerns from frustrated users rather than as opportunities to create something better. it will eventually get to a point where only the people who treat Richard Stallman as a religious figure will still be around