• enterpries@sh.itjust.works
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      10 hours ago

      I don’t think democrats are smart enough to vote for someone better than him in the primaries.

      We will probably see JD Vance win in 2028 because of how stupid democrats are. They voted for Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, for example.

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        6 hours ago

        Problem is the republicans covertly help the less electable unpopular democrats to win. There aren’t that many dem sheep, but with all of the media, the influence operations of both dems and republicans and their allies, the super delegates, etc, the establishment ones seem like the safe choice, seem like the inevitable choice. If they cross the nominee they would be frozen out later they fear it seems, (never worse than in 2024 nobody challening kamala,) and people like the South Carolina black faith leaders still believe these establishment guys are the safe and inevitable choice.

        Nothing has changed. It doesn’t matter how many times they fail, how wrong they are, they will never learn, as long as those with money tell them confidently, and trash those that disagree, they will never support popular reform.

        We need our own organization, and to sign up and organize new voters to overcome the existing sheep and faith leaders like that black south carolina fella that handed it to Biden, (thanks dickhead, admit you were wrong already,) because we will never win those people over with reason.

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          6 hours ago

          @hector @technology This is how Trump wins - everyone in the anti-Trump bucket has their own purity test like this is a fucking breakfast buffet and not an existential threat. Starting to think Americans have degenerated to the point where we don’t deserve Democracy.

          DEVO was right.

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            6 hours ago

            This is the victim blaming the controlled opposition uses to keep control. The only way forward is without them leading. Do not listen to the ones that failed about whom is at fault. It is like allowing Netanyahu to coordinate the response to the attack that happened on his watch, because he failed, as the law and order and safety candidate at that.

            Now because of his failure he gets everything he wants, never admits a mistake while starting 7 wars? It just gets worse the longer you let these manipulators stay in their positions. When there is a failure, an honest accounting must be had, those responsible need to own up to their mistakes, pledge how they will improve, then go forward.

            When those in power scapegoat others for their failures, they have to be replaced as they aren’t trying to accomplish the thing they are lying about but other ends, just like netanyahu. Just like the establishment democrats too. They are preventing popular reform not winning elections. Keeping control of the party for the donors is what they care about.

    • scintilla@crust.piefed.social
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      19 hours ago

      Oh he will. Then the dems will be surprised when they loose again because they put in a guy who literally turns his back on every minority group the second he can.