I wonder, is hatred of advertising a common thing for folks with ADHD? They take away something you are giving your attention to because it interests you, and shove some other crap in your face just to serve their own interests.
I remember being enraged at the scheduled commercial breaks in the '80s and '90s. The only benefit they had was that I always knew which segment of the show I was in and therefore roughly what time it was.
But now? It is so much damn worse and the normies just seem more OK with it than ever. I just remind myself they are living in a society that conditions them to accept it and gives them a thousand more serious things to worry about.
I genuinely believe most forms of advertising on the web are ableist because they try to make them as distracting as possible. Removing those ads is accessibility.
I don’t consider ads at the start and end of videos to be ableist, but they’re still annoying. Mid video ads, pause screen ads, and banner ads are all ableist.
I’m ADHD and I fucking hate ads. They screw up my attention and are just scummy. It doesn’t help that I’m constantly cognizant of the evils that are corporations.
I have wasted so much of my life watching adverts. I am absolutely over it and I get agitated if I watch them now. I cancel any streaming service that tries to force them on me and I am relying more and more on Plex/Jellyfin. I am not going to waste any more of my life watching marketing lies.
I’ve been wondering if ads never got more intrusive than the simple banners on the side or top of sites if there would’ve been a huge push to block them. I think most people would figure that, especially on small sites run by people instead of huge corporations, that web hosting isn’t free so a banner on a page was a fair tradeoff.
But of course that couldn’t be enough for the ad folk who started ramping things up with their flashing ads and pop-ups, eventually culminating in the autoplay video malware hellscape the net has turned into today.
I can only speak for myself, but when I first looked into ad blocking I was only looking into it because of animated ads/ads with audio. Static ads were easy enough to ignore 95% of the time, which of course is why they escalated them to be more obnoxious. So now they’re all blocked of course, they overreached and it cost them any ad views from me. I imagine I’m probably not alone in that.
That’s me too, an effect of Justice Sensitivity, a common trait among both ADHD and autistic people. Before I knew that I was both, I used to tell people that I was allergic to advertising, to convey my feelings about it.
Dismissing righteousness as “justice sensitivity” is absolutely tragic to me. You’re right to feel that way, don’t change. The problem is with the system, not you. Applying a medical perspective is stigmatizing and self defeating. Your reaction is real, valid, and a far more sane response to these conditions than acceptance
“it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a sick society”
I wasn’t trying to dismiss anything. Just pointing out that it’s a commonly observed trait in ADHD people. It’s a scientific perspective to notice that people with certain neurologies tend to exhibit certain behaviors more often than people with other neurologies. It’s not stigmatizing unless you are both generalizing and value judging.
It’s a dehumanizing perspective to categorize experience by “neurologies” and look for problems at an individual rather than systemic level. You don’t have “justice sensitivity”, you’re aware of overwhelming injustice. That’s a good thing. Act on it.
“Categorize experience”? That kinda sounds like that generalization I was talking about, which is not what this is here. It’s a simple matter of “people in this group have a higher likelihood of exhibiting this behavior than people of other groups”. Simple observation. It’s not saying that only people in this group exhibit it, or even that all people in this group exhibit it. Just that more do. It’s not even necessarily claiming direct causation. Maybe people in that group have experiences that make them more likely to exhibit that behavior, so that would make it environmental. But the cause is another discussion.
As for “look for problems at an individual rather than systemic level”, I’m afraid that I don’t know what you mean here. I wasn’t talking about any problems. Are you referring to the injustices themselves maybe? Because that’s a whole other discussion too. I’m talking about psychology, not politics or economics. (And while it’s not relevant, yes, I am acting on it, and far more systemically than most people.)
I didn’t mean to challenge or upset you and hope your day is going well. If you don’t know what I meant by that we’ve got quite a gap to cross and I’d rather just wish you the best and move on. I don’t like the ways that medical/psychological perspective shifts responsibility for social ills onto the individuals experiencing them and find an individual, political, or even economic (I guess) perspective far more liberating. Whatever you’re doing I hope you’re happy and it’s working for you. It’s hard to engage when you claim you aren’t generalizing while defining groupings though
Combo of ADHD and living through the 2000s with Internet Explorer where ads often installed malware and viruses. If you DIDN’T use an Ad Blocker you were playing a game of Russian Roulette every time you opened a web page.
Popups, pop unders, blaring audio, malware, slow page loads…ads are a scourge.
Lol normies couldn’t care less about serious things, they are more worried about petty interpersonal nonsense, like how others perceive them and conspicuous consumption
Oh yeah agreed. Their role in the rat race makes up a significant part of their personal identity. That’s part of the design, to keep you focused on your consumption instead of your life.
I guess I should have referred to the noise as attention-grabbing things instead of serious things, lol.
The problem is malvertising and tracking. Despite Google’s best efforts, ads that deploy malware still exist, and so does ads that track what page/site you’re on to profile you.
I wonder, is hatred of advertising a common thing for folks with ADHD? They take away something you are giving your attention to because it interests you, and shove some other crap in your face just to serve their own interests.
I remember being enraged at the scheduled commercial breaks in the '80s and '90s. The only benefit they had was that I always knew which segment of the show I was in and therefore roughly what time it was.
But now? It is so much damn worse and the normies just seem more OK with it than ever. I just remind myself they are living in a society that conditions them to accept it and gives them a thousand more serious things to worry about.
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I genuinely believe most forms of advertising on the web are ableist because they try to make them as distracting as possible. Removing those ads is accessibility.
I don’t consider ads at the start and end of videos to be ableist, but they’re still annoying. Mid video ads, pause screen ads, and banner ads are all ableist.
I’m ADHD and I fucking hate ads. They screw up my attention and are just scummy. It doesn’t help that I’m constantly cognizant of the evils that are corporations.
I have wasted so much of my life watching adverts. I am absolutely over it and I get agitated if I watch them now. I cancel any streaming service that tries to force them on me and I am relying more and more on Plex/Jellyfin. I am not going to waste any more of my life watching marketing lies.
I’ve been wondering if ads never got more intrusive than the simple banners on the side or top of sites if there would’ve been a huge push to block them. I think most people would figure that, especially on small sites run by people instead of huge corporations, that web hosting isn’t free so a banner on a page was a fair tradeoff.
But of course that couldn’t be enough for the ad folk who started ramping things up with their flashing ads and pop-ups, eventually culminating in the autoplay video malware hellscape the net has turned into today.
I can only speak for myself, but when I first looked into ad blocking I was only looking into it because of animated ads/ads with audio. Static ads were easy enough to ignore 95% of the time, which of course is why they escalated them to be more obnoxious. So now they’re all blocked of course, they overreached and it cost them any ad views from me. I imagine I’m probably not alone in that.
I hate it because it’s an unethical practice to manipulate or mislead and all modern advertising uses dark patterns to try to get you to overconsume.
The ADHD distress is just another side effect of all that
That’s me too, an effect of Justice Sensitivity, a common trait among both ADHD and autistic people. Before I knew that I was both, I used to tell people that I was allergic to advertising, to convey my feelings about it.
Dismissing righteousness as “justice sensitivity” is absolutely tragic to me. You’re right to feel that way, don’t change. The problem is with the system, not you. Applying a medical perspective is stigmatizing and self defeating. Your reaction is real, valid, and a far more sane response to these conditions than acceptance
“it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a sick society”
I wasn’t trying to dismiss anything. Just pointing out that it’s a commonly observed trait in ADHD people. It’s a scientific perspective to notice that people with certain neurologies tend to exhibit certain behaviors more often than people with other neurologies. It’s not stigmatizing unless you are both generalizing and value judging.
It’s a dehumanizing perspective to categorize experience by “neurologies” and look for problems at an individual rather than systemic level. You don’t have “justice sensitivity”, you’re aware of overwhelming injustice. That’s a good thing. Act on it.
“Categorize experience”? That kinda sounds like that generalization I was talking about, which is not what this is here. It’s a simple matter of “people in this group have a higher likelihood of exhibiting this behavior than people of other groups”. Simple observation. It’s not saying that only people in this group exhibit it, or even that all people in this group exhibit it. Just that more do. It’s not even necessarily claiming direct causation. Maybe people in that group have experiences that make them more likely to exhibit that behavior, so that would make it environmental. But the cause is another discussion.
As for “look for problems at an individual rather than systemic level”, I’m afraid that I don’t know what you mean here. I wasn’t talking about any problems. Are you referring to the injustices themselves maybe? Because that’s a whole other discussion too. I’m talking about psychology, not politics or economics. (And while it’s not relevant, yes, I am acting on it, and far more systemically than most people.)
I didn’t mean to challenge or upset you and hope your day is going well. If you don’t know what I meant by that we’ve got quite a gap to cross and I’d rather just wish you the best and move on. I don’t like the ways that medical/psychological perspective shifts responsibility for social ills onto the individuals experiencing them and find an individual, political, or even economic (I guess) perspective far more liberating. Whatever you’re doing I hope you’re happy and it’s working for you. It’s hard to engage when you claim you aren’t generalizing while defining groupings though
Combo of ADHD and living through the 2000s with Internet Explorer where ads often installed malware and viruses. If you DIDN’T use an Ad Blocker you were playing a game of Russian Roulette every time you opened a web page.
Popups, pop unders, blaring audio, malware, slow page loads…ads are a scourge.
On the contrary, my eyes slide right off ads. They even did when I was a little kid.
Why should I care about something I’m not looking for? It’s just going to make whatever they’re advertising more expensive to buy.
Maybe that’s the autism side of AuADHD taking over, though.
Lol normies couldn’t care less about serious things, they are more worried about petty interpersonal nonsense, like how others perceive them and conspicuous consumption
Oh yeah agreed. Their role in the rat race makes up a significant part of their personal identity. That’s part of the design, to keep you focused on your consumption instead of your life.
I guess I should have referred to the noise as attention-grabbing things instead of serious things, lol.
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The problem is malvertising and tracking. Despite Google’s best efforts, ads that deploy malware still exist, and so does ads that track what page/site you’re on to profile you.