Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. …

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. …

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

  • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    1·
    3 hours ago

    Where did I deny colonialism? I acknowledge the fact that Israel is occupying (and colonising) the West Bank and Gaza, I firmly believe they should be pushed out and forced to pay reparations for the decades of stealing land and killing Palestinians.

    Is this “colonialism denial” to you?

    Yeah, it’s all just colonialism denial. You are a genocidal colonialism supporter. No amount of calling “Israelis” “Israelites” to pretend they’re native to the region and not colonizers will make it true.

    Israelis vs Israelites might come from language barrier. English is not my native language.

    But saying they’re not native to the region when we have archaeological and historical evidence of them being there over 3000 years ago is either extreme ignorance, or fundamentalist extremism.

    • LeninWeave [any]@lemmy.mlEnglish
      11·
      3 hours ago

      Where did I deny colonialism? I acknowledge the fact that Israel is occupying (and colonising) the West Bank and Gaza, I firmly believe they should be pushed out and forced to pay reparations for the decades of stealing land and killing Palestinians.

      You literally deny colonialism in the sentence after asking where you deny it. “Israel” is a settler colony in its entirety, not just in the West Bank and Gaza. Once again, Ben Gurion, who committed the Nakba, was very clear about this. So was Herzl, the main forefather of the “Israeli” state.

      Israelis vs Israelites might come from language barrier. English is not my native language.

      But saying they’re not native to the region when we have archaeological and historical evidence of them being there over 3000 years ago is either extreme ignorance, or fundamentalist extremism.

      “Israelis” are the modern day settlers. “Israelites” are the ancient people. “Israelis” are not native to the region. They are mainly europeans, as well as Arab Jews from elsewhere in West Asia and North Africa. Palestinians are native to the region and are descendants of the Israelites who never left.

      • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        1·
        3 hours ago

        It’s like you don’t even read my comments, just default to “wah, wah, wah, you’re a colonialism denier, wah, wah, wah!”

        There’s no reason to continue this conversation in this context.

        • LeninWeave [any]@lemmy.mlEnglish
          11·
          3 hours ago

          It’s like you don’t even read my comments, just default to “wah, wah, wah, you’re a colonialism denier, wah, wah, wah!”

          I read your comments denying genocide, that’s why I reply by calling you a genocide denier. I have explained over and over, but you don’t believe colonialism is genocidal because you are a genocide denier. It seems you also don’t even believe colonialism is colonialism.

          There’s no reason to continue this conversation in this context.

          I agree, I’m not sure why I even bothered to reply to an obvious genocidal zionist for so long.