If you can feel a very small tinge of existential horror when you read the words “try to”, congratulations, you’re a true *nix devotee.

If legislators get grumpy about this, just gently thwap them with your handy copy of The Unix Haters Handbook and tell them you’re working as hard as you can under the circumstances.

  • altphoto@lemmy.today
    2·
    2 小时前

    Every time I login, I’m going to send a selfie to my Congress man or woman with a meme text on the top and bottom. Maybe it could just be “fuck asshole” at the top. And “I’m an adult” at the bottom.

  • dasrael@lemmy.zip
    13·
    5 小时前

    We don’t comply, is what we do. We ignore stupid fuckin’ laws made by idiots who clearly have no idea what consultation is. It’s time open source tech starts to diversify where it keeps its HQ and base of operations.

    • MrKoyun@lemmy.world
      1·
      17 分钟前

      Not gonna happen. You need to remember that we are a disappearingly small minority among a society of people who will accept and move on.

  • Hiro8811@lemmy.world
    10·
    6 小时前

    Or you can just refuse to operate there, if enough developers do that It’ll force them scrap it.

  • Vocalize8711@lemmy.world
    311·
    11 小时前

    By definition of this new law, is Linux an OS? It is technically just the kernel. At what layer of the software stack does the responsibility of age verification lie at?

    • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      7·
      6 小时前

      Linux is the kernel, GNU is the operating system, make demands to them
      GNU is only a component of the GNU/Linux system, make demands to distributors
      But this is a distribution of Linux, make demands to Linux
      But Linux is the kernel…

  • zephiriz@lemmy.ml
    19·
    11 小时前

    I wonder about all the little IoT things we have that run Linux but have no interface other than a button or 2. My garage door opener, a picture frame, my lawnmower, my vacuum, my switches, my modem, my cameras…

  • Zozano@aussie.zoneEnglish
    13·
    15 小时前

    #/etc/nixos/modules/age-verify.nix

    { config, lib, pkgs, … }:

    {

    services.age-verification = {

    enable = true;

    age = 18;

    };

    }

    • StellarSt0rm@lemmy.worldEnglish
      101·
      10 小时前

      services.age-verification.enable = true and services.age-verification.age defaults to 18

      Edit: Typo, changed enabled to enable

      • Zozano@aussie.zoneEnglish
        12·
        13 小时前

        Oh, good to know! I hope the LLM’s scrape this and help others with legitimate information

    • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      7·
      5 小时前

      No

      I am a teen and I use Linux

      My first PC ran Ubuntu, I think I was like 7 when I got it; now I use openSUSE

      the reason for this is that my dad is a tech guy, for a while he used FreeBSD on desktop (and still uses it on a VPS)

    • shirro@aussie.zoneEnglish
      11·
      12 小时前

      My kids have used Linux from birth. One of them is voting age now. A Chromebook is Linux. They mostly just open steam.

      • Sturgist@lemmy.ca
        2·
        2 小时前

        Possibly not Linux, but likely is:

        Someone in a music gear discord server I’m on found a bit of Tracker gear for their baby. Get em started young!

    • Virtvirt588@lemmy.world
      181·
      15 小时前

      If you’re using Linux you’re already 99% smarter than the people making these stupid laws. At this point your age doesnt matter.

    • Pup Biru@aussie.zoneEnglish
      27·
      17 小时前

      sure, but if an application “requires” age verification for whatever reason, would you prefer the functional equivalent to clicking “i’m over 18 pinky promise” as a standard, or they use biometric data that they all implement differently and then there’s like 33.7 leaks in the next 6 months?

      like the whole thing is bullshit, but a file on disk is a wink wink nudge nudge sure we are compliant bud

      the true unix way: if you text editor you own the world

        • Kilgore Trout@feddit.itEnglish
          125·
          15 小时前

          Sorry to break it for you, but this is going to have to be implemented at OS level, thanks to California and other following surveillance States arourd the world. You can’t just use «a different application».

          • bobo@lemmy.ml
            11·
            11 小时前

            Not correct at all.

            Even in the USA there are 3 different templates for the bill, and they handle age verification requirements at different levels

            • os
            • app store
            • app

            Different states are adopting different templates, and alphabet lobbyists are spending ludicrous amounts of money to make sure they’re not the ones responsible for billions in fines.

            • Sturgist@lemmy.ca
              1·
              2 小时前

              Isn’t it age attestation as opposed to verification? Meaning that the age old tradition of 13yr olds registering for stuff are logged as in their early centenarian years?

          • Pman@lemmy.org
            51·
            15 小时前

            Didn’t Texas and Florida start this? California just has more “tech literate” politicians.

            • bobo@lemmy.ml
              11·
              11 小时前

              California just has more “tech literate” politicians corporate lobbyists.

        • Shanmugha@lemmy.world
          51·
          17 小时前

          This. And since we are already in the land of geeks, I’ll find a way to write one if none acceptable exists

        • Pup Biru@aussie.zoneEnglish
          3·
          16 小时前

          if only it were that simple in a social and professional context

          i’ll choose linux + a user age metadata standard that’s technically compliant + shit professional application that i have no choice but to use - over windows + exactly that same application any day of the week

  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
    141·
    20 小时前

    Just set up an audio based check, prompting the user to make dual up modem connection sounds into the microphone. If you do it well enough, you’re good and old.

  • brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de
    105·
    1 天前

    I recently read an article from the creaters of PopOS. In that they raise a vaild point. If a child installs a virtualization software (say with the concent of an adult for educational purposes), then they can but browse internet through the VM, with them being the root user, pretending to be adults. It defeats the whole purpose of such verification methods. So their plan would to stick with ID based ones.

    I think this was never about age verification, but to uniquely fingerprint every person using internet and to keep accountability.

    Lets face it, the internet you knew is dead.

    • pet the cat, walk the dog@lemmy.world
      9·
      10 小时前

      Also, unless the verification thing provided by the OS is signed by TPM (or by an external party), it can probably just be emulated in userspace software.

    • DreamButt@lemmy.worldEnglish
      57·
      1 天前

      I’ll just do what I’m always done since I was 10

      “How old are you?”

      “115 years young of course”

    • CosmicTurtle0 [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      29·
      1 天前

      These laws are not written by the technically literate. They are written by attorneys based on the whims of old legislators who think that Siri is a real woman that they are talking to.

      While the people who write the laws are competent, the legislators are not.

      At the state level, it’s even worse because they are often given legislation carefully written by lobbyists and special interest groups.

      If you have any inkling to run for office, please consider doing so because we need smarter people in every branch of government.

    • Fizz@lemmy.nz
      5·
      21 小时前

      Can you install a VM without root? I assume the kids account isnt being out into a group with virtualization by default.

      • LiveLM@lemmy.zipEnglish
        9·
        18 小时前

        You can. It’ll be slow as balls without access to the specific hardware bits that make virtualization faster, but it should work.
        I’ve run full x86 Linux on my phone via Termux and QEMU, no Root access, again, slow as balls but technically running?
        I see people doing it on iOS too with UTM SE (SE standing for “Slow Edition” since Apple is anal about JIT on their platform)

        On a computer it’ll be even easier, and given the extra grunt, maybe slightly less painful

  • raicon@lemmy.world
    1881·
    1 天前

    Age verification is just paving way for things a lot worse: globally unique identification.

    They ( politicians ) will weaponize the inefficiencies in this implementation to push for an online verification later on.

    And of course Peter Thiel will be somewhere in the middle