• backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
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        I would, but the various factions of the left keep getting hamstrung by memers and zingers who would rather post hot takes and play “more leftist than you” instead of figuring out how to take real action. Meanwhile the right accepted that a pedophile was their path to power and won. You think the right knows, or cares, about the difference between a tankie, a socialist, an anarchist, or a liberal? They don’t give a fuck but our refusal to coordinate or compromise on any strategy to fight back benefits them. We still going to be arguing over commie utopia vs anarchist utopia when we’re stuck next to each other in a boxcar?

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          Leftists have regularly been advocating for organizing:

          The problem with liberals is that they still think the democrats are a path to progress, rather than slow death.

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            Spreading memes on the internet is the weakest form of “advocating”, it’s just anonymous virtue signaling to people you’ll never meet or coordinate with for the satisfaction of an upvote. Advocacy means nothing if all it never amounts to action in person. China glazers would rather black and white, this or that authoritarianism and anything less is “liberalism”.

            Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, 3%ers, boogaloos, the KKK, and all the rest of the right-wing memers managed to get their shift together and stormed the Capitol to little resistance or consequence, then got jobs murdering the opposition in the streets. Meanwhile Democrats vainly hope it can be voted back to the back and forth bargaining of progress as a reward for peacefully protesting once all permits are secured and so long as everyone only uses words. The far left lets it happen because instead of connecting and planning they bounce back and forth between attacking one another and “advocating” for unity.

            When’s the last time you had a realistic discussion of strategy with hot take tankies online vs the last time you had one with a leftist or liberal in real life? The anonymous memes and the China dick-riding are as useful to the fascists as their own propaganda. If it isn’t about finding common ground it’s about further dividing what is already a minority of people who might be willing to take real action if they could unite.

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              Your entire argument is based on the idea that shitposting online is the primary means by which leftists organize. I organize with a communist party in real life, online memes and shitposting are by no means what people advocate as “practice,” it’s just a thing to do in free time. Take a step back and rethink what you believe is going on.

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    Ngl, the fact that the US lied about masks and had such a clusterfuck response while China listened to the science was a major step in me becoming China-pilled.

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    Waiting for Liberals to actually have a thought out response to the excellent resources the MLs of this community provide.

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    China is still the world’s leading polluter, in a time where those so-called “scientists” most definitely know what they’re doing contributing to global climate change like they are. No country is innocent, but making no attempt to not be first isn’t a defensible policy position.

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      China is still the world’s leading polluter

      This is a rhetorical sleight of hand that conveniently glosses over the actual history of polluting nations.

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      The PRC is leading the world in green energy production, electrification, and combatting desertification. They are the largest polluter because they are the largest producer, if you compare pollution based on consumption then the west is by far the larger polluter.

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      China is the one of the most populated country in the world. It produces about 30% of all manufactured goods many of which is consumed by rest of the world. So yeah there is going to be some pollution. If we take about on a per-person basis countries like the U.S. still emit more. Moreover, China is the largest investor in renewable energy and China alone accounted for roughly 40% of the world’s renewable energy investment.

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      previously:

      China is the world’s biggest emitter of carbon gases**

      Yeah, because it’s the second-largest population in the world and it’s producing & exporting the world’s products. You don’t get to de-industrialize, import your products, and then chastise your producers for using more energy than you, when they’re using that energy for you.

      China is also the largest green energy user and producer of green energy technology, which it also exports.

      The Economist: China’s clean-energy revolution will reshape markets and politics