I think the point he’s making (and at least which I was making with the article, and it’s actually a really good read) is that quality propaganda is inherently hard to discern by it’s very nature, and in this time of war with Russia, we should probably do even the small things we can to avoid known Russian propaganda outlets.
He is claiming that doing propaganda strip you of the titlte of journalist which would mean that person is not a protected person in war zone. It is like someone getting hit by a car and someone else talking about how the person who was hit was a bully who hurr many people. It is a justification of violence
No, I don’t agree with that. The reporter doesn’t have anything to do with it.
It’s about not watching known propaganda outlets, because despite their information being accurate most of the time (and convincingly small lies other times), they usually have an agenda as to where they want to take you, feelings-wise.
For example, during WWII, Germans would’ve never tuned into Atlantikssender if it had been lies. No, it was (mostly) accurate reporting (with wins and losses, Germany always lost a bit more than they actually did, and the Allies always won a bit more than they did). What made it propaganda, aside from the small exaggeration, was Vicky mit drei Küssen, or “Vicky with three kisses”, who was an actress of German origin, who had escaped to England, and was there to make the German soldiers just feel like the war is bullshit (which it is, as a larger phenomena as well, so that’s not in any way untrue either) and to imagine being home with their better half. Or if they didn’t have one, made them imagine having one.
I’m not saying this reporter is any of those things, or in any way involved with Russian propaganda at all. I’m saying RT is, and we can’t possibly know which of their material is bending the truth and how. Obviously it isn’t this, as shooting journalists is pretty common for Israel, but the larger point is still that we can’t know, so just avoiding anything RT is the best way to go.
“Justification for violence” pssshhh, I’d say “good try”, but it really was not even a good try
I never said he is not a propagandist. I said a propagandist can be a journalist or any other job relating to public affairs
I think the point he’s making (and at least which I was making with the article, and it’s actually a really good read) is that quality propaganda is inherently hard to discern by it’s very nature, and in this time of war with Russia, we should probably do even the small things we can to avoid known Russian propaganda outlets.
Or do you disagree?
He is claiming that doing propaganda strip you of the titlte of journalist which would mean that person is not a protected person in war zone. It is like someone getting hit by a car and someone else talking about how the person who was hit was a bully who hurr many people. It is a justification of violence
No, I don’t agree with that. The reporter doesn’t have anything to do with it.
It’s about not watching known propaganda outlets, because despite their information being accurate most of the time (and convincingly small lies other times), they usually have an agenda as to where they want to take you, feelings-wise.
For example, during WWII, Germans would’ve never tuned into Atlantikssender if it had been lies. No, it was (mostly) accurate reporting (with wins and losses, Germany always lost a bit more than they actually did, and the Allies always won a bit more than they did). What made it propaganda, aside from the small exaggeration, was Vicky mit drei Küssen, or “Vicky with three kisses”, who was an actress of German origin, who had escaped to England, and was there to make the German soldiers just feel like the war is bullshit (which it is, as a larger phenomena as well, so that’s not in any way untrue either) and to imagine being home with their better half. Or if they didn’t have one, made them imagine having one.
I’m not saying this reporter is any of those things, or in any way involved with Russian propaganda at all. I’m saying RT is, and we can’t possibly know which of their material is bending the truth and how. Obviously it isn’t this, as shooting journalists is pretty common for Israel, but the larger point is still that we can’t know, so just avoiding anything RT is the best way to go.
“Justification for violence” pssshhh, I’d say “good try”, but it really was not even a good try
But the other user complained about the journalist not the russia media
No, they didn’t… ?
He mentions RT being a Russian propaganda outlet and people upvoting it. Nothing about the journalist or the event is mentioned.
I was in the wrong sub discussion. Sorry about that
Happens to the best of us, no wörries.