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    As a software engineer, I’m convinced “vibe coding” is just a meme. It’s like watching a chaotic system. You need to constantly be wrangling it back on topic, and keep it from bloating the codebase, in order to get anything done. You may be able to vibe a small mockup, but it will inevitably go off and produce garbage that doesn’t make sense.

    It is useful as a glorified grep, and a sort of natural language to programming language compiler for simple descriptions. But if you don’t already understand what you expect the LLM to output, you’re gonna have a bad time.

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      A group at the web dev team for my company started a Dev Club to meet on Zoom to discuss code info and showcase dev work from them and other dev teams. Being a sysadmin scripter, I wanted to join to get experience in professional dev workflow as a creeper in the shadows. Then genAI code helpers happened and the guy leading it, the senior web dev at my company, started to use Claude and other genAI tools. Now, that’s like all they talk about and showcase. Like 2 or 3 devs decided to outsource their thinking and now that’s all the convo is about. Not even about their stuff, but leading genAI developments.

      I stopped attending the monthly Zoom meetings. Not sure how many in there are into genAI, but since it wasn’t my bag, I didn’t want to say anything and just declined the recurring calendar event. Maybe I’ll start my own dev club with blackjack and hookers!

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    Steve Wozniak is our guy.

    If you like Android, if you hate Apple, if you don’t like the way things are going in tech… you probably have more in common with Apple co-founder Steve “Woz” Wozniak than you think.

    Co-founded by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak in 1976 (-04-01, 50th anniversary coming soon) (plus an investor), Woz wanted Apple to make PCs for tinkerers with open ports, open source, all that good stuff. Jobs on the other hand, wanted a closed system end to end.

    Woz is also quoted as saying something like, “they send me the latest and greatest iPhone every year. They’re pretty, but I wish they did half the shit my Android phone does.” He doesn’t open them. He stacks the boxes in his closet, or he used to. He uses an Android phone. I think he’s rocking GrapheneOS on a Pixel. He probably posts on Lemmy under an alias. (No, I’m not him. He probably wouldn’t be on db0. Though, he might be.) (Please don’t say I’m him. I’m nowhere near that cool. And I use an iPhone 16 Pro Max 512GB. My Android phone is 7 years old, though I do like a few things about it more. If I were Woz and I used an iPhone, I wouldn’t still use the 16 Pro Max, I’d be using the 17 Pro Max, and I’d have the 2TB one.)

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      Never heard of this guy before, he sounds cool, if he was just the co-founder of apple but parted ways I wonder why is he still relevant? I guess he must have been doing something else during all this time and now I have to dig up his Wikipedia to learn, bye

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        He’s relevant because he’s the one most people liked, but Steve Jobs did all the keynotes (until he got too sick to, and then he died) so that’s who people see. The balding windbag in the black turtleneck and jeans who talks like he’s your friend but just wants to own you. Steve Wozniak was his friend (and remained so until he died AFAIK) who was encouraging him to make products for humans, not shareholders.

        Wozniak doesn’t have to do a fucking thing. He never wanted to live like a king and he probably still lives in a modest house and drives a beater of a car. He’s also an Apple investor. He had enough shares to comfortably live on for life before he left Apple. He’s probably bought more. He probably has a lot of things that work very well, but he probably doesn’t have flashy things. I’m not saying he drives a 1988 Honda Accord, but he’s not driving a Bugatti or a Lamborghini to the grocery store. He’s you and I but with unlimited money (or at least more money than he’ll ever need). Maybe he’s got a vast Gundam collection or something like that, I dunno (something niche and expensive).

        But yeah, look him up if you want. I’m just spitballing. I really don’t know how he lives. He’s just never seemed extravagant.

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        He buys (or used to anyway) sheets of $2 bills from the treasury,cuts them himself, and puts them together into a little packet. Then in tipping situations he’ll peel off a wad, just to see peoples reactions for the lolz

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    In context, it sounds like he’s “disappointed a lot” by people choosing to use AI, which is a crucial distinction. His objection is about the kind of society we’re sleepwalking into, not the technical maturity of the current crop of software.

    AI’s generated text is “too dry and too perfect, and I want something from a human being, and I’m disappointed a lot.”

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    There are also those who slam people for having negative opinions of AI. Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft’s AI group, called public criticism of the tech “mind-blowing,” Nvidia’s Jensen Huang says the negativity is hurting society, and Nadella has pleaded to move the conversation beyond “AI slop.”

    Then stop serving us AI slop. Y’all get paid way too much to claim that your products aren’t what they are.

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    Woz has a better take than the vast majority of people the MSM tends to interview. I’m not surprised (he seems pretty technically competent in general), but it’s definitely a breath of fresh air.

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      (he seems pretty technically competent in general)

      My god this is funny.

      I know you’re being completely sincere, but taken out of context, that bit in parentheses is hilarious.

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        Yep, the guy who figured out how to use NTSC to show colors in 4 days of coding because he wanted to play breakout with colors, with a $1 chip.

        I’m pretty sure his plane crash robbed us from great things.

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      He says

      “too dry and too perfect, and I want something from a human being, and I’m disappointed a lot.”

      I think this is the problem. It’s not human. Stop having this expectation.

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        It’s not human. Stop having this expectation.

        Then it needs to stop being interjected and trying to take over the Human aspect of tech, art, creativity, etc.

        Till then…

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          It’s not doing that.

          People are using it for that.

          Big difference.

          You’re the one humanizing it. This is like claiming a tree is trying to be a musician because someone made a guitar out of it.

          Stop humanizing AI.