@Paranoidfactoid@monica_b1998 We actually do have masking on Adjustment Layer Groups. Basically, make a layer group in passthrough mode, put whatever combination of filters you want on it, then add a layer mask.
Come on. Since 1997 and Ps 7, every adjustment had its own alpha mask to paint where and how much that adjustment would take place in the frame. Affinity does this. Hell, Krita has done this for nearly 20 years.
Gimp 3 is a genuine improvement. But what you propose is the kind of delusional thinking seen in ‘Gimp is better than Photoshop’ advocacy videos on YouTube. The kind of advocacy that has ruined GIMP’s reputation among people who actually use this software.
@Paranoidfactoid Trust me, I’m well aware the UX can be a lot better - I’m the person who implemented initial non-destructive filters for GIMP 3.0. :)
I’m just saying that it can be done in GIMP right now, and I linked a plug-in that makes it easier (it adds a menu option that does all I said in a single step). I’m happy to hear feedback from people who use GIMP on how to improve it further.
I realize Gimp is a free project and has limited resources. I’m thankful there are people (like you) who maintain and improve it. Because I run Linux, Gimp and Krita have been my only available go-to tools. But it is painful. I really hope you guys rework the alpha mask code so each adjustment filter gets its own mask. Maybe in 3.4 or whatever.
Layer styles for text are a big deal. Being able to reorder adjustments in the stack is a big deal. Vector layers are a big deal. Real improvement has happened. But I do actually use adjustment masks. A lot of people do.
Thank you for these updates. Another thing I’d really like to see is better integration with Inkscape. It does text better than Gimp. Being able to craft text there and flawlessly import that into Gimp, with all its filters and effects, would really be nice. Inkscape is quite good.
@Paranoidfactoid No worries! I think I misunderstood what you meant by “mask”. Technically, each filter has an associated mask (set to the active selection when applying the filter) - we just don’t have the UI yet to edit it after the fact. It’s on the TODO list.
I have a pending merge request for exporting Inkscape SVGs that didn’t quite make it into 3.2. I’d like to add better SVG import (as vector not raster) integration as well - Inkscape is awesome.
Inkscape has a few text deformation tools Gimp lacks. Importing svgs produced from Inkscape would be a big win. People will use that.
An alpha mask on an adjustment layer allows for all sorts of useful adjustment blends using paint brushes or black and white gradients. I’m sure you’ve seen how Ps handles adjustment layers. Krita is similar. This is just a common interface element now. It works well. Shrug.
Good luck. Thank you for Gimp 3. It is a real improvement over prior major releases.
@Paranoidfactoid @monica_b1998 We actually do have masking on Adjustment Layer Groups. Basically, make a layer group in passthrough mode, put whatever combination of filters you want on it, then add a layer mask.
Someone even made a plug-in to simplify that process while we continue to work on the UX: https://github.com/yousei3/GIMP3-Aseudo-Adjustment-Layers/releases/tag/Ver1.0
Come on. Since 1997 and Ps 7, every adjustment had its own alpha mask to paint where and how much that adjustment would take place in the frame. Affinity does this. Hell, Krita has done this for nearly 20 years.
Gimp 3 is a genuine improvement. But what you propose is the kind of delusional thinking seen in ‘Gimp is better than Photoshop’ advocacy videos on YouTube. The kind of advocacy that has ruined GIMP’s reputation among people who actually use this software.
Your half baked solution does not do the job.
@Paranoidfactoid Trust me, I’m well aware the UX can be a lot better - I’m the person who implemented initial non-destructive filters for GIMP 3.0. :)
I’m just saying that it can be done in GIMP right now, and I linked a plug-in that makes it easier (it adds a menu option that does all I said in a single step). I’m happy to hear feedback from people who use GIMP on how to improve it further.
I realize Gimp is a free project and has limited resources. I’m thankful there are people (like you) who maintain and improve it. Because I run Linux, Gimp and Krita have been my only available go-to tools. But it is painful. I really hope you guys rework the alpha mask code so each adjustment filter gets its own mask. Maybe in 3.4 or whatever.
Layer styles for text are a big deal. Being able to reorder adjustments in the stack is a big deal. Vector layers are a big deal. Real improvement has happened. But I do actually use adjustment masks. A lot of people do.
Thank you for these updates. Another thing I’d really like to see is better integration with Inkscape. It does text better than Gimp. Being able to craft text there and flawlessly import that into Gimp, with all its filters and effects, would really be nice. Inkscape is quite good.
@Paranoidfactoid No worries! I think I misunderstood what you meant by “mask”. Technically, each filter has an associated mask (set to the active selection when applying the filter) - we just don’t have the UI yet to edit it after the fact. It’s on the TODO list.
I have a pending merge request for exporting Inkscape SVGs that didn’t quite make it into 3.2. I’d like to add better SVG import (as vector not raster) integration as well - Inkscape is awesome.
Inkscape has a few text deformation tools Gimp lacks. Importing svgs produced from Inkscape would be a big win. People will use that.
An alpha mask on an adjustment layer allows for all sorts of useful adjustment blends using paint brushes or black and white gradients. I’m sure you’ve seen how Ps handles adjustment layers. Krita is similar. This is just a common interface element now. It works well. Shrug.
Good luck. Thank you for Gimp 3. It is a real improvement over prior major releases.