you always can choose to start or not. beyond that, addiction may or may not set in. but people can always choose to start and they can always choose their method of use.
weird how when it comes to tobacco people always think there are no decisions. have you never thought about it, like with your brain?
Tobacco and vapes are nicotine delivery devices design to entrap addicts for life. This is why most vape companies are tobacco companies and why scumbags are selling nicotine pouches.
Nicotine on its own is about as addictive as caffeine.
It’s the delivery system that the mental addiction is tethered to, not the substance.
Regardless, multiple studies have shown that vaping is a successful method to quit smoking, and that vaping is significantly less harmful than smoking.
Shit, even the heavy metal study that was misreported to sound scary had Vapes with concentrations that were either orders of magnitude lower than smoking, lower than the OSHA limits, and in some cases lower than atmospheric levels.
Yeah but stop pretending like vapes are some magic device to help with addiction. If they were actually meant to help with addiction they would be prescribed and come with additional medical help. Time after time we have seen this exact situation play out, something comes around to decrease addiction and does nothing more than induce it this is no different.
Sure and that probrally comes with more than just vapes but also medical help and professional support, I doubt they just give you a prescription and say “here smoke this shit until you pass out”
Right, but you said they didn’t help with addiction because no one prescribed them for it. I’ve been personally responsible for getting about 20 people off of cigarettes by introducing them to vaping with an open system. And many of them went on to quit vaping with relative ease.
Vaping was created for the purpose of making it easy stopping smoking and to reduce harm. This was way before disposable vapes were a thing, back when people were modifying flashlights to heat coils.
It’s a highly effective method to stop smoking because it not only does it contain the mildly addictive nicotine, it also replaces the action of smoking which is the truly addictive part.
The absolute grand majority of people purchasing vapes are doing so in a unregulated and unprescribed manner, if it required a prescription by law maybe then I would believe its actually a tool to combat addiction.
People have been quitting smoking for a lot longer than capes existed. Vaping is not safe.
it can be a better method for some people than the other extant methods.
The grand majority of people vaping aren’t quitting smoking and probably never smoked
That’s not the topic of discussion.
yeah, that’s their choice. weird how that works, isn’t it.
You have no “choice” when you are drug addicted to nicotine.
you always can choose to start or not. beyond that, addiction may or may not set in. but people can always choose to start and they can always choose their method of use.
weird how when it comes to tobacco people always think there are no decisions. have you never thought about it, like with your brain?
Tobacco and vapes are nicotine delivery devices design to entrap addicts for life. This is why most vape companies are tobacco companies and why scumbags are selling nicotine pouches.
Nicotine on its own is about as addictive as caffeine.
It’s the delivery system that the mental addiction is tethered to, not the substance.
Regardless, multiple studies have shown that vaping is a successful method to quit smoking, and that vaping is significantly less harmful than smoking.
Shit, even the heavy metal study that was misreported to sound scary had Vapes with concentrations that were either orders of magnitude lower than smoking, lower than the OSHA limits, and in some cases lower than atmospheric levels.
Yeah but stop pretending like vapes are some magic device to help with addiction. If they were actually meant to help with addiction they would be prescribed and come with additional medical help. Time after time we have seen this exact situation play out, something comes around to decrease addiction and does nothing more than induce it this is no different.
The NHS actually prescribes them.
Sure and that probrally comes with more than just vapes but also medical help and professional support, I doubt they just give you a prescription and say “here smoke this shit until you pass out”
Right, but you said they didn’t help with addiction because no one prescribed them for it. I’ve been personally responsible for getting about 20 people off of cigarettes by introducing them to vaping with an open system. And many of them went on to quit vaping with relative ease.
Vaping was created for the purpose of making it easy stopping smoking and to reduce harm. This was way before disposable vapes were a thing, back when people were modifying flashlights to heat coils.
It’s a highly effective method to stop smoking because it not only does it contain the mildly addictive nicotine, it also replaces the action of smoking which is the truly addictive part.
The absolute grand majority of people purchasing vapes are doing so in a unregulated and unprescribed manner, if it required a prescription by law maybe then I would believe its actually a tool to combat addiction.
please point to the area in my comment where i did that