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    1 day ago

    And do you not care about the families and children in the countries they plunder and rape?

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      Most people are more worried about their immediate family than strangers. But yes I do care, and fortunately it’s not a call I have had to make but I literally couldn’t have kids if I wanted to unless I joined the military today. Too bad the echo chamber here has never had to make a tough call! Maybe they could relate if they had to struggle and grow up poor.

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        The “echo chamber” here includes people who lost family and friends to US invasions, f off

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          23 hours ago

          So have I dumb ass, on both sides of US invasions. My mother is from Venezuela, and my father is ashamed of what he had to do to provide his children with a better life. That’s not what my original comment was about, I was stating that in the United States if you are poor and want health care and the opportunity to provide for you family your option is the military. Must be nice to come from a country where you have a choice, your privilege is showing.

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            23 hours ago

            I’m trans, disabled, unemployed and from/in Latin America, you asshole. Having principles isn’t a privilege, it’s the bare minimum. If you believe we’re less human than you and we can get killed so you get healthcare you suck. I’d sooner do precarious work that only puts me at risk than do that. There’s no universe in which what you’re saying makes sense. Grow up and stop making imperialist apologia.

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              21 hours ago

              See that’s the thing. Only puts YOU at risk not others. I’m talking about people who want to raise a family and aren’t from a wealthy family or incredibly lucky. I don’t want to make that call so I don’t have kids and therefore haven’t been basically forced to join the military. I’m not talking about having principals I’m talking about having family health 0 out of pocket I don’t get why people are conflating this with some sort of military support when I just said somebody is ignorant for saying fuck everybody in the military, as if its a choice for some of them.

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                20 hours ago

                You’re defending killing people, you’re disgusting, that’s the whole thing. I wouldn’t kill children or rape anyone to provide for my own children. If they can’t take care of their children then they should organize against their government, not kill people in our countries.

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                  People have been organizing against our government for decades. How many generations before it’s acceptable to provide care for your family? You are right if it can’t be done you should not have kids. That’s why I havent. I also never defended killing people. I simply said some people don’t have an option but to join military if they want health care for their family and thats a fact.

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                    And then those people go on to commit and abet pillaging and atrocities worldwide. You are defending killing people. There always is a choice, and the fact is that things can be changed for the better. A better world is possible.