• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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    3 hours ago

    Any sufficiently adaptive mimicry of a thought is that thought.

    Thoughts are like music. There’s no such thing as fake music. You can’t pretend to play music by mimicking the sounds. If it sounds like music, it’s music.

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      2 hours ago

      “sufficiently adaptive” is doing a lot of work there. i can “mimic” a thought by copying and pasting text that someone else wrote. it wouldn’t mean that I understood it, could reason from it, connect with it on an emotional level, or incorporate it into a worldview

      your music simile misses the point in a similar way. a record player can play music just as well as the artist who recorded the record, but we don’t say the record is the same as the musician.

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        1 hour ago

        I’m not saying the record is a musician, I’m saying it can play music. And I’m not saying LLMs are sapient people, I’m saying they have a sense of self. An LLM is adept enough at adapting its copied idea of selfhood to its situation that it has a sense of self. It’s not as complex a sense a self as a human’s is, but it’s more complex than a magpie’s, and magpies pass the red dot mirror test of sentience. An LLM can adapt its copied ideas of self-awareness to the situation better than a magpie can.