• Deceptichum@kbin.social
          51·
          11 months ago

          Because I want the abolishment of all copyright and IP. Why are you fighting against liberating human culture?

          • LWD@lemm.eeEnglish
            32·
            11 months ago

            You’re fighting for them because you don’t want them to have barriers in their corporate growth. Okay.

            IP laws are a last resort in encouraging people to be creative. Remind me, which of us hate creativity?

    • cm0002@lemmy.worldEnglish
      62·
      11 months ago

      Um no, we’re defending actual open AI models, I couldn’t give 2 shits about OpenAI. They have the funding to license things, but that open source model? Trying to compete against big corporations like Microsoft and Google? They don’t.

      You’re actually advocating for the big corporations, what’s going to happen if things go the way you want is the truly open models will die off and big corporations will completely control AI from then on. Is that what you really want?

      • LWD@lemm.eeEnglish
        43·
        11 months ago

        As long as you are willing to admit that you are okay with plagiarists like James Somerton stealing the words of minority authors and large corporations like Marvel stealing the content of small comic artists verbatim and publishing them.

        I’m not sure how that helps anyone, but you seem convicted in your absolutism.

        • cm0002@lemmy.worldEnglish
          32·
          11 months ago

          I fail to see what he or your comment has to do with Generative AI models, which is what we are talking about.

          I don’t think you fully understand how Generative AIs work. The input data is used in a similar, but far more rudimentary way, to learn as humans do. The model itself contains no recognizable original data, just a bunch of numbers, math and weights in an attempt to simulate the neurons and synaptic pathways that our brains form when we learn things.

          Yes, a carefully crafted prompt can get it to spit out a near identical copy of something it was trained on (assuming it had been trained on enough data of the target artist to begin with), but so can humans. In those cases humans have gotten in trouble when attempting to profit off it and therefore in that case justice must be served regardless of if it was AI or human that reproduced it.

          But to use something that was publicly available on the Internet for input is fair game just as any human might look at a sampling of images to nail down a certain style. Humans are just far more efficient at it with far far less needed data

          • LWD@lemm.eeEnglish
            23·
            11 months ago

            So does something become less plagiaristic if the plagiarizer can’t provide attribution?

            And no, AI does not learn, so you cannot compare it to a human. Passing the Chinese room test does not mean you are a native Chinese speaker.

            • cm0002@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              11 months ago

              Not all AIs do, the more “traditional” ones that you’re probably thinking of don’t. The ones that are generating text, images and video, however, are based on Generative Adversarial Networks a type of Deep learning Neural Network and those do learn albeit in a rudimentary fashion compared to humans, but learning none the less.