Half the school board thinks Keith deserves a third chance (that’s right, not his first time making inappropriate comments to a child).
They say only he can decide if he wants to step down. They did vote in favor of censuring him. The rest of the school board members that laughed during the comment and touching of a child faced no repercussion. Some even pretended to be offended during the emergency hearing.
Somebody immediately blocked me yesterday, despite me never speaking to them or having seen them before, because I said we needed to start using violence against people who do this shit. It’s the only way to stop it, because clearly holding them accountable doesn’t work in the US. If it did, we wouldn’t have a pedophile for a president.
How do we know holding them accountable doesn’t work? We’ve never actually tried it.
Yes, that’s the problem, thank you for stating the obvious, you truly are an intellectual.
Anyway, sounds like the real problem is that our laws aren’t being enforced. So maybe we should deal with that instead of normalizing vigilante justice.
Violence is a circle. You do it to someone, they do it to you. The only way to stop that cycle is to kill your target. Now murder’s on the table for anyone who thinks a type of person is unacceptable, which is only sensible until it really, really isn’t. Operating under the assumption that violence is a reliable deterrent will ultimately get you killed, man. Unless you plan on being the only guy with the nuclear option at your disposal. Good luck with that one.
Peace should be the standard, even when it’s hard. Don’t get me wrong, there are people I won’t shed a tear for when they get hurt. But I would consider the best case scenario to be “a problematic person course corrected before they hurt anyone” and the next best to be “a problematic person learned from their mistakes”. That’s what accountability looks like imo, and we don’t always meet that mark. That’s a shame, but not big enough that violence is the only answer we have. We can and should be better than that.
so the only thing we disagree on is whether or not we’ve reach the last resort?
I don’t think we have yet. Not for this guy, at least. He called a kid hot, in front of colleagues who were amused by it, and the proof is undeniable. I’m sure enough local pressure could get him (and maybe his colleagues) fired, and a black mark on his character would be even better. People should let him know what they think of him everywhere he goes.
That said, the president and his ilk…tbh that’s where I struggle to find the peaceful option. Can’t find a better representation of institutional failure. Violence won’t necessarily make things better, but I can’t shake the feeling we’ve been backed into a corner.
How did you know they blocked you?
Piefed, which I use, has actual blocking, unlike Lemmy. You cannot reply to someone that has blocked you on Piefed, the option is greyed out and you are given an error that says “you are blocked by this person” if you try. if that person is a mod, you also cannot post to any of their comms, if I remember correctly.
also, they said they were going to block me.
Ah, I see! That’s a nice feature.
that’s a shitty feature and i wouldn’t participate anywhere where they have that. you are free to ignore whomever you want, but this is “i have a last word” button and that is retarded.
you can’t have the power to say whatever bullshit you want publicly and then prevent people from calling you out.
Isn’t your suggestion just holding people accountable?
I meant through the legal system, but yeah. But apparently wanting to use violence makes me “exactly as horrible” as a pedophile. 🤷♂️
These are the same people who see rape and murder as the same levelof sin as being gay. I was raised around that type of bs.
“i dont hate you for being gay, its just your burden. Like johnny is pedo, and pam is a murderer, and frank is a thief. We’re all sinners and its not our place to judge”
i wish i was kidding…
Idk why punching people in the US is treated exactly as bad as shooting people but its stupid to think a bloody lip is the same as like a bullet hole.
might have something to do with the fact that when you punch someone, they can shoot back.
Idk, but somebody who does shit like he did definitely deserves a few guys taking them out back behind the building to give them a real good beating.
If saying that makes me “exactly as bad” as them then so be it, I’ll be the bad guy and take one for the team. 💪
“Exactly as horrible” is unfair to you. But it sounds like you’re advocating to give up on rule of law and just have the strongest most violent people be the ones to decide what’s right. And I’d argue that you’d just get back to where we are right now: wealthy people would control the system, they’d employ strong violent people to enforce their personal whims as “law”, and you’d be complaining that nobody is willing to beat up the pedophile (because his friends would hire goons to kill them).
I mean, presumably that’s what’s stopping you personally from implementing your own recommendation, right? Because if you showed up and kicked this guy’s ass you’d be beaten and arrested by the police.
oh no, I’m a leftist. the plan is to murder the rich people. then they can’t do anything to stop you. I’m a big fan of a firing squad, but one of the other AN admins suggested slow roasting over a fire. I’m also partial to putting them on wooden stakes like Vlad the Impaler, but we can figure it out as as we purge them, I suppose. maybe a little bit of everything?
Holding people accountable works if they are actually held accountable.
Right, which didn’t happen. So it doesn’t work. Flushing a toilet gets rid of poop, when it works. When it doesn’t flush, it doesn’t work.
Whatever you say, Batman. Are you the one who’s going to deliver the punch?
Plenty of other countries have more vigilante justice and still have corrupt leaders, so clearly that doesn’t work either. Maybe instead work to make your government better. In a democracy, it represents the will of the people.
I hit my step-father over the head as a child with a cast iron pan for trying to force himself on my mother while drunk, so yeah, I’ll fucking beat him up for you, if you’re too much of a feckless hand-wringer to do anything to defend your community from predators. wouldn’t want you to break your nails or muss up your hair gel.
the United States is not a democracy, and the will of the people is ignored. so basically, you’re advice is to sit back and do nothing, same as always.