• paul@lemmy.org
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        A Mac user CANNOT use the retort “skill issue” 😂😂 it’s the OS that requires the LEAST amount of skill of all the options available and that’s saying something when chromeOS exists

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        No skill issue involved when your team arrives to work and every single employee’s screen sharing functionality stops working…and there’s no warning or notification why it’s not working.

        No skill involved when your sound drivers stop working during a presentation and you need to reboot to get them working again because there’s no way to restart the devices.

        No skill issue when the file explorer has no way to access the root directory - you have to run finder from the command bar and that somehow works.

        No skill issue involved when an update breaks all local domains and you have no way to override, so you have to change all dev domains for everyone across the whole org…TWICE.

        No skill issue when wifi and bluetooth randomly stop working and the only solution is to reboot.

        No skill issue when pressing the play button and it open iTunes when Spotify is already open.

        Not a skill issue when desktop transitions don’t accept input until the transition completes. Reducing the transition time does not help, the transition must fully complete before you can provide input.

        I could go on, but I can only recall so much anecdotal experience from the few years I suffered through that shit. Maybe some of these things have been fixed, but release after release the experience would worsen and usability would degrade. I’ll never use a mac again, my productivity is too important to me.

        Anyone who stans for MacOS are just lying to themselves.

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          None of these happen on a regular occasion, I can’t even remember the last time ANY of them happened in my office where macOS is the default. 90% of what you experienced is probably user created errors**. But then again I realize I’m in a Linux sub and it’s what we Linux users do, tweak shit.

          ** except for the play button. Apple does like to force Apple Music over my already open player.

          macOS is perfect for every day use for most people and for those that know how to use it outside the normal, powerful.

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            This shit happened all the time, it was a non-stop nuisance, and it’s only the tip of the iceberg. Retina display would disconnect daily, peripherals would disconnect when connected through a retina display, the entire OS one time would not boot and there was no real error message but was fixed by clearing some battery cache after we already ordered a new macbook.

            These issues plagued our entire office, but you just lived with it because you didn’t have a choice. One ycombinator commentor described these issues as “papercuts”, and they’re so abundant that they moved away from MacOS entirely. Another commentor describes that the most recent release is the most “breaking” version yet. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47440759

            It’s pretty ignorant to say “it’s perfect for every day use” in the face of literal users struggling to use it for “every day use”.

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          Thank you for providing examples. Some are fair enough.

          file explorer has no way to access the root directory

          It has several ways. From the menu bar: > Go to… > Folder > /

          By default Finder no longer shows your main drive in the sidebar. You can easily enable that in Finder settings though.

          You can also navigate the folder hierarchy up until you are at root. cmd + up is the keyboard shortcut for that. You can also command + click the icon in the window title bar and then select the folder upwards in the hierarchy you want to navigate to.

          There are several other ways to do this as well.

          reboot

          A very common way to resolve problems on all operating systems.

          update breaks all local domains

          Weird.

          release after release the experience would worsen and usability would degrade

          I agree that macOS experience has worsened over the last couple of years. It’s still better than Linux and windows overall.

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            I haven’t used a mac in a few years - there’s AI stuff now? The OS was pretty bloated considering what it was - it used more memory than a Windows machine which is impressive.

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              macOS uses more aggressive caching of the filesystem and other things. Using available memory isn’t bad.

              Swap is also bette4 because Apple chooses actually fast SSDs.

              Using a Mac with only 8 GB of RAM is a lot more fun and performant than a windows machine.

              There are very few and limited AI features now. For example Mail has a button to summarize text. There’s also a mediocre local AI to generate images. Apple focuses on locally run small AI models that add small features. It’s not in your face and demands you use it. You can easily ignore the AI features.