washed up? What are you talking about? She’s been the lead on two different, highly rated, shows for nearly a decade now. And that’s discounting her decades prior of accolades.
But here’s the real problem, you jump to call her “washed up”, she’s only 49. Is Brian Cranston washed up? Was Pachino? Calling a female actor “washed up” because she’s older with a long career just exudes and perpetuates the culture pushing out women as they age.
Just because YOU stopped paying attention to her doesn’t make her washed up. Sorry she’s not the bangable 20something year old “Legally Blonde” anymore. Say what you want about her hot take on AI, that’s fair, but don’t normalize your misogyny as part of it.
When a woman says something they get judged much harsher. Plenty of research about this. People just want to judge women. The day has structure when there’s a scapegoat. Her point is still valid. Do your research before talking people. Please. I beg of you.
Ignoring everything else, “washed up” only means someone has lost their previous high status. It has nothing to do with age. You can be a washed up child actor.
I mean, you said yourself she’s working on TV. It’s definitely a step down from the height of her career, and it looks like I’ve never even heard of her most recent show. Pacino is definitely in washed up territory, I haven’t heard anything about him since Jack and Jill or maybe that weird de-aged Netflix movie. Cranston is different in that he’s primarily a TV actor whose work has only become more respected over his career, although apart from the Malcolm reboot I haven’t heard much from him, so perhaps he is in the process of becoming washed. It’s all a relative thing and I don’t think misogyny played as much of a role in this comment as you’re arguing.
EDIT: Reworded my last sentence because misogyny is definitely a huge problem in Hollywood, I just didn’t appreciate you jumping down comment OP’s throat.
Maybe she just made more money than she can ever spend and decided to just enjoy life, doing what she actually likes vs. what pays well
Daniel Radcliffe is a great example of that. He was set for life by the time he was 18 and he decided to just take jobs for fun. So we see Radcliffe in these rather obscure and weird quirky movies. It’s not because he’s washed up, it’s because he’s washed over and done and he’s just having fun
Not saying I know for sure it’s the same for without her spoon, but I think people react weird when an A list celebrity gets a bit quieter
I think you’re a making a lot of cope to defend casual misogyny instead of just calling it out.
“nono, you don’t understand, Cranston did tv first, totally different”. They’re both actors, and actors frequently alternate between movies and shows all the time. For various different reasons.
OP wasn’t attacking her views on AI, he was attacking her, as an actor. Using language that wouldn’t be used on similarly aged male actors (don’t like my examples, there’s hundreds others to use… DeCaprio? McKellen, Nicholson?). Language, mind you, that dogwhistles and normalizes popular misogynistic takes on women with long careers (especially if they started young).
If that seems acceptable to you but you earnestly believe Hollywood misogyny is a problem, you might want to do some self-reflecting on those two statements. Think about what it means to normalize attitudes and the words used to describe actors and how/when they’re applied.
washed up? What are you talking about? She’s been the lead on two different, highly rated, shows for nearly a decade now. And that’s discounting her decades prior of accolades.
But here’s the real problem, you jump to call her “washed up”, she’s only 49. Is Brian Cranston washed up? Was Pachino? Calling a female actor “washed up” because she’s older with a long career just exudes and perpetuates the culture pushing out women as they age.
Just because YOU stopped paying attention to her doesn’t make her washed up. Sorry she’s not the bangable 20something year old “Legally Blonde” anymore. Say what you want about her hot take on AI, that’s fair, but don’t normalize your misogyny as part of it.
When a woman says something they get judged much harsher. Plenty of research about this. People just want to judge women. The day has structure when there’s a scapegoat. Her point is still valid. Do your research before talking people. Please. I beg of you.
Ignoring everything else, “washed up” only means someone has lost their previous high status. It has nothing to do with age. You can be a washed up child actor.
I mean, you said yourself she’s working on TV. It’s definitely a step down from the height of her career, and it looks like I’ve never even heard of her most recent show. Pacino is definitely in washed up territory, I haven’t heard anything about him since Jack and Jill or maybe that weird de-aged Netflix movie. Cranston is different in that he’s primarily a TV actor whose work has only become more respected over his career, although apart from the Malcolm reboot I haven’t heard much from him, so perhaps he is in the process of becoming washed. It’s all a relative thing and I don’t think misogyny played as much of a role in this comment as you’re arguing.
EDIT: Reworded my last sentence because misogyny is definitely a huge problem in Hollywood, I just didn’t appreciate you jumping down comment OP’s throat.
Is it, though?
Maybe she just made more money than she can ever spend and decided to just enjoy life, doing what she actually likes vs. what pays well
Daniel Radcliffe is a great example of that. He was set for life by the time he was 18 and he decided to just take jobs for fun. So we see Radcliffe in these rather obscure and weird quirky movies. It’s not because he’s washed up, it’s because he’s washed over and done and he’s just having fun
Not saying I know for sure it’s the same for without her spoon, but I think people react weird when an A list celebrity gets a bit quieter
Movies mean nothing now, TV is bigger. Well streaming is bigger.
I think you’re a making a lot of cope to defend casual misogyny instead of just calling it out.
“nono, you don’t understand, Cranston did tv first, totally different”. They’re both actors, and actors frequently alternate between movies and shows all the time. For various different reasons.
OP wasn’t attacking her views on AI, he was attacking her, as an actor. Using language that wouldn’t be used on similarly aged male actors (don’t like my examples, there’s hundreds others to use… DeCaprio? McKellen, Nicholson?). Language, mind you, that dogwhistles and normalizes popular misogynistic takes on women with long careers (especially if they started young).
If that seems acceptable to you but you earnestly believe Hollywood misogyny is a problem, you might want to do some self-reflecting on those two statements. Think about what it means to normalize attitudes and the words used to describe actors and how/when they’re applied.
hilarious. JFC…The Morning Show?
She’s washed up and investing in AI, while simultaneously insulting women with real jobs by telling them their jobs are bullshit.