• Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    I still don’t understand this use of emoji.

    It’s not “I shoved a 🌵 up my 🍆”, I could get that, reject alphabet return to pictogram for the sake of compression if nothing else. But no, it’s “I shoved a cactus 🌵 up my dick 🍆” which is just…why are we doing this?

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      4 hours ago

      Emojis are great when you want to convey tone or emotion that you normally can’t do through text alone. I find them especially useful when a sentence as-is sounds a lot colder than you actually mean it to be

      Obviously not the intention of OP and it’s definitely excessive IMO but I do also find that they can be useful markers for longer texts. It gets a lot of hate but I find emojis really useful in codebase READMEs since you can quickly scan through and pick out the bits if information you’re looking for

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        4 hours ago

        Having grown up chatting with friends and hitting on chicks via MSN messenger, I’m aware. "I’m gonna get you for that 😡 " and "I’m gonna get you for that 😜 " are two different messages.

        I will allege that emoji are badly suited to that task though. First, there are too many emoji. Even just the facial expressions, there are dozens of them. Second, they aren’t designed to parse to emotions, they’re designed to parse to facial expressions. Many of which are specific to Japanese culture. Third, they’re rendered kinda tiny in a lot of fonts. With a font size and screen zoom level set where I can comfortably read text, many emoji are just…yellow circles. Or little blobs of color that I have to bring the screen much closer to my face to make out than the raw text.

        Emoticons did the job better with less. But, entropy ruins all.

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      6 hours ago

      It’s only compressing the message visually (it generally uses more data)

      Also, at least for me, it takes more work to parse the images than words require. I have to like… shift out of reading mode, comprehend the image and then go back to reading.

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            3 hours ago

            Than an entire word?

            Take “cactus” for example. Each letter in the word “cactus” is one unicode character, for a total of six. 🌵 is one unicode character, U+1F335.

            Unicode characters are 4 bytes long, so “cactus” takes 24 bytes to transmit, where “🌵” takes 4. Unless something something UTF_8?

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              You’re close, Unicode characters don’t imply a number of bytes, it’s how they’re encoded that does (utf-8 most commonly). Utf-8 can be as little as one byte or as many as four, depending on the specific character. I don’t know about emojis but I imagine they’re in the four bytes section. Whereas “asdf” is also four bytes in utf-8.

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                2 hours ago

                So I just looked it up, the UTF-8 encoding for the cactus emoji is 4 bytes long: 0xF0 0x9F 0x8C 0xB5

                Where the Latin alphabet is in the 1-byte region.

                So it takes 6 bytes to transmit “cactus” in UTF-8, and only 4 to transmit “🌵”. So any emoji that replaces 5 or more letters is more efficient. 🍆 breaks even with “dick” or “cock”, more efficient than “penis”, more than twice as compact as “eggplant” or “aubergine”.

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                2 hours ago

                Yes, to be clear I meant the example I gave where the word was replaced with the emoji was compression, not where they give the word and its emoji. That’s as long-handed as possible.