spoiler alert-> Hasan is a decent person don’t listen to the nonsense mud being slung at him.

  • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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    3 hours ago

    So you come in here and start arguing with me, then when I bring up a salient point, you metaphorically plug your ears and say “nu-uh, I’m leaving.”

    Way to stand on your principles…

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      1 hour ago

      That’s not what I said either. It’s enough for me to point out that the “facts” as you present them aren’t uncontested. I trust rational folks to go look for themselves. Nothing you or I bicker about here would or should be relevant to what they find. I also note that there are probably tens of thousands of hours of Hassan streaming with that dog in the background, and if there were a single other incident indicating that Hassan routinely tortures it, his detractors would certainly have surfaced it by now.

      What I will point out is that, were we to swallow this junk wholesale, a “lesser of two evils” comparison between Hassan and his establishment detractors would still put him miles ahead. Shock collars are awful, but not genocide levels of awful. The talking heads reading AIPAC scripts against Hassan are literally motivated by support for a genocidal regime. Re-litigating old and seriously disputed claims is distraction at best.

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        41 minutes ago

        Ok, so you admit he likely shocked his dog?

        Thank you, that’s all I was asking. This isn’t dinner grand political debate. Like I already mentioned, 8 agree with Hassan on a great many things. But y’all gotta stop worshipping him like the second coming. He’s correct, doesn’t mean he’s perfect.

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          24 minutes ago

          Ok, so you admit he likely shocked his dog?

          They didn’t say anything remotely like that, you fucking liar.

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              18 minutes ago

              Whatever you imagine I “implied” is outright contradicted by what I “said”. You overstepped here. Any internal debate I had about whether you are an idiot or a troll has been resolved. You are definitely a troll.

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      3 hours ago

      It’s a debatable point, unimportant to the greater discussion. Only trolls and dnc ball suckers bring it up. It’s equivalent to how magats fixate on Obama’s middle name.

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          58 minutes ago

          The whole reason they bring it up all the time is to derail substantive conversation and embroil the community in “what color is the dress” debates instead of talking about genocide. Even “winning” the debate is a losing move because it embraces the distraction and won’t keep it from coming up again and again forever.

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            45 minutes ago

            No, you super this dude like a cult. Like he can do no wrong.

            Explain why his knee jerk reaction to tell at his dog whimpering?

            Answer that question.

            All 3 of you are breathing around the bush and saying “it’s debatable” per I’m not willing to debate that" or “I’m willing to debate it, but I’m not going to actually debate it”

            I have asked you 3 a crystal clear question, answer it.

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              23 minutes ago

              No, you super this dude like a cult. Like he can do no wrong.

              I already said that I don’t even watch his streams, so what the fuck are you talking about?

              Explain why his knee jerk reaction to tell at his dog whimpering?

              Hassan himself explained it, and it’s easy enough to look up for anyone interested.

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              21 minutes ago

              I answered your question three fucking times and you just keep lying saying I didn’t answer it. And that’s why other people won’t answer it. You’re so transparently acting in bad faith, it’s no different than “have you stopped beating your wife” shit

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          57 minutes ago

          Hey, I’m willing to debate this topic, why did you metaphorically plug your ears and say “nuh uh I’m leaving” instead of answering my question about why you’re more concerned about this dog than about all the animals you have killed for you?

          Way to stand by your principles…

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              43 minutes ago

              I already answered your exact question, before you even asked it then again after. Now answer mine.