Clem talks about that in the comments. What are some no hassle, Debian based, rustless distros as alternative to Mint?

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    So your argument for x11 is Wayland doesn’t work on crts and doesn’t let all programs access clipboard and kb events freely? If you are using a cat, then use x11, thats why it’s an option

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      20 hours ago

      Except it’s not an option if we want to use our normal DE.

      (Also, CRT monitors are normal monitors. And they’re actually pretty great. OLED-level blacks, even! Just gotta watch your refresh rate, 60 Hz flickers like crazy if you use a light theme. 70 is fine for us.)

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        20 hours ago

        I know CRTs are good(ish), but there not a standard use case. Also most mainstream des support both x11 and wayland

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          Sure they support both X11 and Wayland for NOW.

          KDE soon won’t, and that’s the one we use.

          Gnome I got no clue, we don’t use Gnome.

          Cinnamon is likely to be alright and supporting X for a good while.

          Also like… “but that’s not STANDARD!” is literally my entire point. That’s the problem. “That’s not a standard use case” being used as basically a “go fuck yourself, you don’t matter”. (You might not be implying this, but a lot of people sure do.)

          Linux should support the weird stuff too. “That’s not a standard use case” could be used to reject just about anything you don’t like, even, say, custom fonts.

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            13 hours ago

            That is all fair, and I’m sure there’s other issues with Wayland, but really all my issuis come down to xwayland problems. I didn’t realize KDE was dropping x11 though, that is unfortunate