IBM's PC division floundered for years after the PCjr proved too expensive and its new OS was nothing compared to Windows, allowing Lenovo to buy IBM in 2004.
are we rewriting history? “and then bill gates came along”. microsoft was with ibm since the beginning of the home market? microsoft was formed to work with ibm. microsoft is older than apple. microsoft was initially pushing os/2 but ibm wasnt interested in the home market so microsoft ripped off xerox like apple did. but the article was about ibm shifting focus away from the home market and that happened before 1993 (doom 1)
Apple ripping off Xerox is a well-traveled myth. In fact Jobs & team famously negotiated a walkthrough of PARC, with the specific intention of drawing inspiration from the Star’s rudimentary GUI, in return for shares of Apple. They then greatly expanded on those ideas to create their own OS. What Gates did with the Mac OS was similar to what M$ did with dozens of other companies, i.e. finding loopholes & barely-legal means to steal their content, one way or another.
Current Windows (the NT line) has fuck all to do with Apple. It’s DEC Alpha through and through as MS hired the core Alpha team when they were laid off.
Mark Minasi wrote an article about it in 1998, and showed exactly how NT is Alpha.
I was talking about the original, which absolutely ripped off the GUI from the early Mac OS. That’s the whole point when it relates to IBM at that stage-- they lost the hardware, OS-GUI and software battles to everyone else, spelling their doom.
are we rewriting history? “and then bill gates came along”. microsoft was with ibm since the beginning of the home market? microsoft was formed to work with ibm. microsoft is older than apple. microsoft was initially pushing os/2 but ibm wasnt interested in the home market so microsoft ripped off xerox like apple did. but the article was about ibm shifting focus away from the home market and that happened before 1993 (doom 1)
Apple ripping off Xerox is a well-traveled myth. In fact Jobs & team famously negotiated a walkthrough of PARC, with the specific intention of drawing inspiration from the Star’s rudimentary GUI, in return for shares of Apple. They then greatly expanded on those ideas to create their own OS. What Gates did with the Mac OS was similar to what M$ did with dozens of other companies, i.e. finding loopholes & barely-legal means to steal their content, one way or another.
Current Windows (the NT line) has fuck all to do with Apple. It’s DEC Alpha through and through as MS hired the core Alpha team when they were laid off.
Mark Minasi wrote an article about it in 1998, and showed exactly how NT is Alpha.
And DEC predates Apple by years.
Er… who was talking about current Windows?
I was talking about the original, which absolutely ripped off the GUI from the early Mac OS. That’s the whole point when it relates to IBM at that stage-- they lost the hardware, OS-GUI and software battles to everyone else, spelling their doom.