Jesus Christ. First they fucked over notepad and introduced dozens of application breaking new bugs and broke decades of existing functionality, now they’re thinking about breaking the damn clock ?
Wait, no, they’ve already broken the clock in windows 11 because it no longer shows seconds, and doesn’t respond to clicks on non primary displays.
I guess they decided it wasn’t broken enough.
I’m getting so sick of their shit, and my employer locks down my laptop so tightly that I can’t run any 3rd party software too, so I can’t even install my own clock application.
It’s wild to me that clocks stopped responding on non-primary windows. The first time I noticed that I thought it was broken- and I was right, because there’s zero rhyme or reason for removing that functionality.
I don’t think they removed it, as such, it’s more that they rewrote the clock from scratch and didn’t know the old clock did that, and didn’t care to find out.
Similar to how task manager used to suppress the refresh if shift was being held down and that no longer works in Windows 11 because they rewrote it and never looked at Dave’s original code.
I still can’t believe how slow the task manager is in windows 11, how do you ever release a task manager that is slower than before? Disgraceful developers and managers over there now
I’m not following you… Like most corporates, they’ve locked it down, in this case with BeyondTrust, so that it’s not even possible to run unapproved executables without a dialog box popping up demanding an explanation, which then creates a ticket with security, who casually deny it a few days later.
But the fact that I can’t personally run alternatives on that laptop doesn’t change the fact that Microsoft have pushed out a lot of poorly tested and bug ridden replacements for software that has worked perfectly fine until now.
I don’t know how to be clearer, that’s not your computer at that point. I would absolutely require my employer to provide their own device to implement this security solution.
We’ve been trained to see computing as a nonpolitical thing, but computation in “the information age” is every bit as political as iron was in the iron age, or, I dunno, sails in the age of sail. Stupid examples, I should be asleep right now. The point is that we should view news about all technology through a political lens.
I can’t do smart examples at half past three, so here’s this. If you were a medieval serf and the king had assumed direct mind control over your horse, you would have no difficulty seeing how that was an offense against the social contract and a clear signal that the divine right of kings was flawed. “My horse has been mind-controlled by the court sorcerer, now he won’t breed with the family mare… and yesterday I swear I saw him whispering to a guard!”
You’d just about tolerate that weird shit from a horse the king gifted you, but not your own. But this isn’t the age of horse. Good night!
I think that there was a mix-up of what “their” was referring to in this line of conversation. It seems to me like you two are saying the same thing otherwise.
OC initially referred to it as “my laptop,” you’re correct about that, but that’s kind of a colloquialism - or has been everywhere I work. “My system” just refers to the hardware into which you login, assuming they provide you with such. I refer to the laptop my employer provided as “my laptop” or “my work laptop” if there’s a need to disambiguate, but I’m under no illusions regarding what would happen to the hardware if I left the company.
Also, though my work laptop isn’t locked down like that person’s is, I’m not going to install anything not work related or login to any personal accounts. After all, I agree with you: it’s the employer’s laptop provided to allow me to advance their interests.
I think old mate is confused about you saying “my laptop” when it’s your laptop provided by your workplace. He’s then telling you it’s not your laptop if they control what you can download (which it isn’t yours, it’s the workplace) . I’ve got absolutely no idea how the fuck horses entered the equation.
Jesus Christ. First they fucked over notepad and introduced dozens of application breaking new bugs and broke decades of existing functionality, now they’re thinking about breaking the damn clock ?
Wait, no, they’ve already broken the clock in windows 11 because it no longer shows seconds, and doesn’t respond to clicks on non primary displays.
I guess they decided it wasn’t broken enough.
I’m getting so sick of their shit, and my employer locks down my laptop so tightly that I can’t run any 3rd party software too, so I can’t even install my own clock application.
Oh you want to see a fun win11ism? Use the calculator to determine the number of days between 2 dates.
Win 10: 2 fields you type in
Win 11: no typing is possible. You must click and scroll through a calendar ui for each date.
that is pretty terrible,
I didn’t even know the calculator could do that.
It borderline can’t now
It’s wild to me that clocks stopped responding on non-primary windows. The first time I noticed that I thought it was broken- and I was right, because there’s zero rhyme or reason for removing that functionality.
I don’t think they removed it, as such, it’s more that they rewrote the clock from scratch and didn’t know the old clock did that, and didn’t care to find out.
Similar to how task manager used to suppress the refresh if shift was being held down and that no longer works in Windows 11 because they rewrote it and never looked at Dave’s original code.
I still can’t believe how slow the task manager is in windows 11, how do you ever release a task manager that is slower than before? Disgraceful developers and managers over there now
Is it your laptop, or theirs?
It’s obviously their laptop… what’s your point ?
If they’ve ceded that much control, there aren’t many ways it’s still their hardware left.
I’m not following you… Like most corporates, they’ve locked it down, in this case with BeyondTrust, so that it’s not even possible to run unapproved executables without a dialog box popping up demanding an explanation, which then creates a ticket with security, who casually deny it a few days later.
But the fact that I can’t personally run alternatives on that laptop doesn’t change the fact that Microsoft have pushed out a lot of poorly tested and bug ridden replacements for software that has worked perfectly fine until now.
I don’t know how to be clearer, that’s not your computer at that point. I would absolutely require my employer to provide their own device to implement this security solution.
We’ve been trained to see computing as a nonpolitical thing, but computation in “the information age” is every bit as political as iron was in the iron age, or, I dunno, sails in the age of sail. Stupid examples, I should be asleep right now. The point is that we should view news about all technology through a political lens.
I can’t do smart examples at half past three, so here’s this. If you were a medieval serf and the king had assumed direct mind control over your horse, you would have no difficulty seeing how that was an offense against the social contract and a clear signal that the divine right of kings was flawed. “My horse has been mind-controlled by the court sorcerer, now he won’t breed with the family mare… and yesterday I swear I saw him whispering to a guard!”
You’d just about tolerate that weird shit from a horse the king gifted you, but not your own. But this isn’t the age of horse. Good night!
I think that there was a mix-up of what “their” was referring to in this line of conversation. It seems to me like you two are saying the same thing otherwise.
OC initially referred to it as “my laptop,” you’re correct about that, but that’s kind of a colloquialism - or has been everywhere I work. “My system” just refers to the hardware into which you login, assuming they provide you with such. I refer to the laptop my employer provided as “my laptop” or “my work laptop” if there’s a need to disambiguate, but I’m under no illusions regarding what would happen to the hardware if I left the company.
Also, though my work laptop isn’t locked down like that person’s is, I’m not going to install anything not work related or login to any personal accounts. After all, I agree with you: it’s the employer’s laptop provided to allow me to advance their interests.
I remain very confused about the point you’re trying to make ?
Are you trying to say that if I don’t personally own the laptop that I use for work, then I have no right to complain about its shortcomings ?
I think old mate is confused about you saying “my laptop” when it’s your laptop provided by your workplace. He’s then telling you it’s not your laptop if they control what you can download (which it isn’t yours, it’s the workplace) . I’ve got absolutely no idea how the fuck horses entered the equation.
I tried, I think I’m ready to drop it. Sorry about that.