• quick_snail@feddit.nl
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    16 hours ago

    Article is shit. It says Scientology is a religion. It’s not. It’s a cult.

    Pretty fucked it doesn’t mention any of their crimes or how they’ve been banned by so many countries for these crimes.

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      14 hours ago

      Maybe one day someone will get me to understand the difference between religion and cult.

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        You see, in a cult there’s a guy at the top who knows it’s all bullshit. In a religion that guy died ages ago and scholars aren’t sure if he existed to begin with.

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        Maybe one day someone will get me to understand the difference between religion and cult.

        Cult: a small unpopular religion.

        Religion: a large popular cult.

         

        Or, if you prefer:

        “the only difference between a religion and a cult is the amount of real estate they own”

        -Frank Zappa

        Though that kinda falls apart in the Scientologist’s case. They have acquired a lot of real estate since Zappa first made that statement.

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        Specific structures of exploitation maybe? I’ve been in some cults and in some religions and the cults has structures that the religions did not. That being said, I have seen “religions” that used to have or do have those structures. It’s very hard to define. I like using Steve Hassan’s BITE model but, like with any model it has a specific type of cult it is examining.

        It’s why the cult I’m currently working on starting has none of the oppressive structures. I’m an absurdist.

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        13 hours ago

        Some religions exist to help people, not to harm their members for the benefit of the church

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            It’s an always and never thing. Those are bad words to use when discussing reality. We can find exceptions where well meaning people gather together and do real good in the name of a god. Likewise we can find unfortunately far too many examples of people coopting the structures that the well meaning people have built to harm their community.

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                9 hours ago

                yes so let’s discount them because they use the name of a god to organize, as it coopts a preexisting structure and at one point in history made organizing a hell of a lot easier. like setting up groups on facebook.

                it’s kind of like (and yes i get this is a bad analogy but i am a musician so pthbt it is what comes to mind) blaming an atheist organist for playing at a church because the musician doesn’t have a pipe organ at home