• JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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    12 hours ago

    Do you know any chronically obese people?

    Like, seriously. I’m not joking. What your parent described is something that is entirely true to a lot of people.

    Losing weight is “easy”, in the sense that how to do it is pretty obvious and well known.

    The hard part is keeping it off.

    Think of alcoholism. It’s easy to just stop being an alcoholic right? I mean, conceptually…just stop drinking alcohol. Simple.

    Now stop drinking alcohol for the rest of your life. You can never touch it again.

    Not so easy.

    Now imagine you need a small amount of alcohol every day or else you will die, but if you ever start to think “oh well I worked hard today I can have a second beer”, then before you know it you’re a full blown alcoholic again.

    That’s chronic obesity.

    My weight has dropped and rebounded countless times over my life. I know what to do, I know how to do it, I’ve done it countless times. I’m fucking tired. The idea of having to weigh my food and track my calories for the rest of my life honestly makes me anxious, because I know that as soon as I stop, I’m going to lose all that I’ve worked for. Because it’s happened so many times before.

    GLP-1s are different. It’s honestly like a light switch. Like “oh, this is how I’m supposed to feel”. There is no more thinking about food. Even when starting to feel hungry, it’s not “I have to eat right now”, it’s “I’ll get to it when I get to it”. It’s not all-consuming.

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      12 hours ago

      If you are counting calories you aren’t doing it right in the first place. Fruits and vegetables are your friend, you can gorge endlessly on them, no one got fat off northern fruit, or vegetables (obviously excluding staples like corn and potatoes.)

      Find a way to make vegetables palatable. The other big factor is your gut biome, which can be improved by eating raw veggies, some fruits, and by things like making your own pickled mixes, non distilled vinegar on raw cut veggies, like peppers, cabbage, garlic, onion, peppercorns, and the like. No salt needed if you ask me.

      Then the excercize of course, if you can get into an activity, something you look forward to doing.

      The biggest drivers of obesity are pop for starters, diet is even worse in other ways. But also all the processed garbage. Whole grains, whole foods in general. Good luck.

      Also I should add, sugar propaganda has fobbed off harms on fat, which is important, you want healthy fats obviously, but the stomach doesn’t recognize being full until it has it’s portion of fat and you will overeat.

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        11 hours ago

        Unsolicited dieting advice. Cool. Thanks.

        You know I’ve managed to go 41 years without ever hearing any of this, or incorporating any of it into my daily life.

        Hard to believe, but I’ve spent all that time under a rock, eating pasta and donuts. A very large rock.

        Who the fuck are you? Who the fuck do you think you’re talking to? Did you read a fucking word I said, or any of the parents above this?

        Or do you just come here to fat shame under the guise of providing “advice” to people who have been hearing it from literally everybody in their life? Does that make you feel better about fat shaming? By thinking you’re doing a good thing?

        You know what’s really fucked is I’ve talked the same way you do, when I’m at my lows. Goes to show how much self-loathing is involved in being fat.

        Eat less, move more. It’s so simple. Why didn’t I think of that.

        Even if you sincerely don’t think you’re fat-shaming, you are. The way you are speaking, is, ironically, belittling. Talking down to me like I’m an idiot. Sorry if that’s not the case, but fuck you regardless.

        • krashmo@lemmy.world
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          11 hours ago

          I’m not the person you’ve been responding to. You’re not wrong that it’s hard, but it really is simple. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.

          People keep comparing it to drug addiction and that’s pretty a pretty good comparison. Telling a drug addict to stop using drugs is not usually productive on its own because doing so is extremely difficult. However, quitting or severely limiting usage is still the ultimate goal of any addiction treatment plan. The steps are simple but difficult to implement.