• Proton VPN has hit back at Canada’s proposed Bill C-22

• The proposed legislation could require VPNs to log user metadata

• NordVPN and Windscribe have also slammed the bill

  • XLE@piefed.social
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    I’ll still appreciate when if they fight for the right things.

    Proton has a long history of capitulation.

    And they have a history of making promises they don’t keep.

    In fact, it’s so bad that Proton defender @[email protected] wrote a warning about how their statement here is basically not to be trusted.

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      if 3 lines is a long comment for you, you should read more. For the others:

      This AGAIN? They were ordered by a Swiss court to log the IP accessing the mailbox, (which the court granted because the French authorities cited terrorism as a reason, completely overblown charges). They do NOT log IPs by default, and if you do not comply with court orders of the country you are based in, you can close up shop.

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        3 hours ago

        Thank you for sounding the alarm about the untrustworthiness of this company. Keep on keeping on, my anarchist friend.

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          Well, I know there are some cases. But they are still bound by Swiss law, or soon they will not have a company anymore.

          It’s not perfect on privacy, but I wouldn’t call it “capitulation” either.

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            Proton’s homepage has a very different take on Swiss law.

            Our technology and business are based upon this fundamentally stronger definition of privacy, backed also by Swiss privacy laws.

            Proton is based in Switzerland, and your data does not go to the cloud. Instead, it stays under the protection of some of the world’s strongest privacy laws.

            And a very different public message about whether they would capitulate vs defending your freedom.

            We are a neutral and safe haven for your personal data, committed to defending your freedom.

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              Well that’s actually what I said, isn’t it? Swiss law, which they have to abide by. Some of the strongest in the world, but not airtight for people who commit crimes.

              The laws protect the company and the users privacy to a certain extent, but that also means Proton have the responsibility to uphold that law, or the law will be meaningless.

              Getting into trouble by repeatedly purposely breaking the law is probably the easiest way for a company to get disbanded. No other companies will work with you, your server contracts will not be extended and you won’t get anything done.

              And neutral is also probably a lawful type of neutral, judging from the many times they mention the law :)