• Tamo240@programming.dev
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    2 days ago

    ‘Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes.’

    Study computer science if you like it, it’s never been about making good ‘coders’ or software engineers.

    I don’t think the number of software engineers will ever drop to zero, but the days of ‘learn to code’ to get a high paying job guaranteed are definitely over.

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      The jobs will just become (even more) horrible amagamations of fullstack development mixed with customer service. Meaning you’ll be forced to sit on “urgent” live support lines and incident bridge calls, management will expect you to magically be able to answer any question about all facets of every integration and table the stupid thing touches, at the drop of a hat, including the vibecode garbage some other team just deployed yesterday, and you’ll also have to do tier 1 type of tickets where you walk some illiterate fucktard through how to click the single sign-on button.

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        I don’t know how to break this to people but the vast majority of coding is boilerplate projects to solve trivial problems. Those jobs are disappearing (and have for years), what still exists is applying rigourous methods of computer science to solve specialised problems.

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          I’ve been writing code as a primary hobby and then as a profession for 26 years. The boilerplate has never been the bulk of any of my work, and we’ve had excellent tooling to eliminate the actual boilerplate for decades.

          The work has always been the specialized parts, and the fun part of software dev work is that so much of it is bespoke and creative and unique beyond the grasp of the stochastic parrots.

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        I didn’t say programming is unecessary, and I’m a proffesional software engineer with a degree in computer science. When I say ‘learn to code’ is over I mean the pressure for anyone and everyone to learn to code because there are so many well paying software engineer jobs.

        This era is over undoubtedly, because all the people who never really cared about software engineering and are just there to collect a paycheck are going to be replaced - but the profession of software engineering will still be necessary, and the abstract maths of computer science isn’t going anywhere as a field of research.