• Goodeye8@piefed.social
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    Just being a power Jedi isn’t enough either. It was something Qui Gon learned and taught it only to Anakin, Obi Wan and Yoda. All the other powerful Jedi? Gone.

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        But we do talk about the mess that is the prequels?

        If you’re someone that loves the prequels because you watched them as a kid, how do think it’ll be in a decade when kids that watched Rise of Skywalker start posting to web forums?

        As someone who watched both the PT and ST as an adult, the ST was way more interesting and better made than the PT.

        Obviously they both suck compared to the Star Wars movies I watched as a kid LOL.

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          The sequels are literally just a copy paste of the original trilogy with a different skin. The prequels may not tell a great story, but at least it’s original.

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            Hey now let’s be fair, they also stole points from the Dark Empire story line. The funny thing is that people have always had issues with Dark Empire but at least when they brought back Palpatine there we also got darkside Luke with the best outfit IMO and also Jedi Leia.

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          The prequels were bad in a completely different way than the sequels. They’re poorly written and directed, but the core ideas are good and recontextualize the original movies in a way that makes thematic sense and arguably improves them.

          The Original Trilogy stands on its own without any other context. It’s the story of one man’s rise from humble beginnings to becoming the hero who takes down a corrupt Empire and acts as a beacon of hope for the galaxy.

          The Prequels change that, with the six movies now becoming the story of the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. They also show how Luke lacks the flaws of the old Jedi Order while avoiding the traps that ensnared and corrupted his father, giving hope that he and his friends can build a better and more resilient system.

          With the Sequels added, what story does the overall series tell? That Skywalkers have good intentions but inevitably fuck things up, only to redeem themselves through suicide? That it doesn’t matter if Good triumphs over Evil because the heroes will end up lower than where they started, the status quo maintained, and the same villains will pop back up again for the next generation to deal with anyway? They’re a narrative mess that adds negative value to the existing saga.

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          If you’re someone that loves the prequels because you watched them as a kid, how do think it’ll be in a decade when kids that watched Rise of Skywalker start posting to web forums?

          A decade? You mean in 3 years? Those kids have started posting on the internet already, and they still don’t give a shit.

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      He didn’t teach yoda, he just chatted with him a bit and told him to go to Degobah to learn from the Jedi priestess.

      Qui-Gon never completed his force spirit training, so I imagine it was quite difficult for him to communicate with Yoda in the first place, and he was meditating in a jedi temple at the time.

      Oh and it was like the tail end of the clone wars by the time that happened, so I imagine Yoda was a bit pre-occupied before teaching Obi-Wan and by then there weren’t really many Jedi to teach.

      Anakin gets a pass for being the chosen one, and then for his redemption arc/self sacrifice…and I guess that gets inherited by Luke and Leah?

      Hell Leah is like a masterclass in retcon and deus ex machina in and of herself.