• Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth
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    3 days ago

    Gnome is great.

    Most Linux users can’t deal with every single project not prioritizing customization. Gnome having a unique workflow (which is a great one) is unbearable for some reason.

    I am not gonna place the full blame on the Linux community though. Gnome started out way more customizable, so maybe that suddenly getting pulled from underneath Gnome users so inconsiderately gave it a bad reputation.

    Then they went and did absurd things with libadwaita to not only stop supporting customization, but actively interfere with people’s choices of customizing Gnome and libadwaita apps so apps ~“are viewed and used as intended by their developers, and people don’t accidentally break apps and complain to the devs” (i.e. Bullshit).

    Literally the only foundation that made Linux usable, stable, unified and customizable.

    I really can’t see how. It’s popular and user friendly, but I can’t seriously give it that much importance.

    For me at least: It just serves to show that Linux UIs can be clean, consistent, and user friendly. Which might pull in funding from companies and governments looking for a good UI to mass deploy.

    But if it didn’t exist, Plasma would’ve eventually filled that vacuum.

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      WDYM Libadwaita is not customizable? Libadwaita is the most customizable UI lib I would say. You literally fan just change every part of any app through css and call it a day.

      Unlike QT slop - literally fuck ton of inconsistency. And if you don’t like classic Breeze - good luck. Because Kirigami makes it impossible to customize QT apps at all.

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        Ah yes, comparing shit to shit. Although there’s basically no other choice anymore…

        Anyways, I once tried removing the profile pictures in Dino. That’s it. Sounds like a great idea, with the best of intentions. After poking around, found that GTK literally has devtools like a web browser, albeit a bit more annoying to use. Found that there’s is a “hidden” checkbox, if I check that it hides all profile pictures. Great, I thought. Then tried CSS:

        display: none !important; // nah, that would be too naive
        hidden: 1; // nope
        opacity: 0; // doesn't remove from layout
        width: 0px; // nope
        

        Gave up, found the relevant docs after going through a bunch of useless ones, and all of the rules fit on one page. None of them remove a fucking element. And that’s because none of these are meant for the user (have you met the average Gn*me user?). And basically all of them have native counterparts anyway, so they are just an illusion of choice to the developers, too.

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        WDYM Libadwaita is not customizable? Libadwaita is the most customizable UI lib I would say. You literally can just change every part of any app through css and call it a day.

        I haven’t tried doing it in a while, but I remember it being very difficult to change themes beyond tint and colors, with lots of apps having custom colors not in the pallet used in the “gtk.css” file.