Do you not think that a hypothetical state without Capitalism could also generate an automated surveillance state? It feels to me to be less tied to the market system and more to authoritarianism. I would simply point to the fact that many European nations under socialism did have very strong secret police spying on the public under the pretext of protection from counter-revolution, which is not really any different to the countries under capitalism today, minus the technology.
Do you not think that a hypothetical state without Capitalism could also generate an automated surveillance state? It feels to me to be less tied to the market system and more to authoritarianism. I would simply point to the fact that many European nations under socialism did have very strong secret police spying on the public under the pretext of protection from counter-revolution, which is not really any different to the countries under capitalism today, minus the technology.
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When I spoke about European countries under socialism I meant East Germany (Stasi), USSR (KGB), Czechoslovakia (StB), Hungary (AVH), etc.
None of these countries were capitalist at the time and maintained gigantic security services to spy on the entire population.
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