• Toast@lemmy.zipOP
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    1 day ago

    I’m assuming you’re a man? No shade, I am too. It’s something that is hard for us to notice until you look for it (or watch a clip compilation). Women experience it every day for their whole lives, so they sense these things naturally. The sad thing is, it’s less that they have to “look for it” like us and more that every social interaction with men is marked by these gross dynamics.

    In essence, this video is composed of (not-so) extreme examples of a very mundane social phenomenon.

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      1 day ago

      Thank you for posting this and for your comments. It’s a refreshing take on this site.

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        1 day ago

        Aww, thanks! That’s really encouraging. It’s kind of an obligation considering the state of things. I’m glad it’s appreciated by others.

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      23 hours ago

      Also a man 🖐️ also never seen this happening IRL 🖐️ Also on board with the reason probably being that I don’t look for it, I’m not on the receiving end, etc etc. Also probably because I don’t get out much, and when I do I focus on my wife and/or kids, depending who I’m out with.

      I have also heard that basically all women experience creeps like this at least once in their lives, if not regularly.

      But is it really true that “women experience it every day for their whole lives”? I find it hard to believe, even in a big city. 🤯

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        23 hours ago

        It happens every day, though maybe not every day to the same woman.

        When I lived in a bigger city, I would get comments almost every time I commuted, which was daily. “You’d look prettier if you smiled” was a common phrase thrown out.

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          23 hours ago

          My god. First of all, sorry on behalf of those men, although not to help those men say sorry, but for your sake.

          Secondly, wtf. W. T. F.

          Is that your job, to look prettier on your commute? Like, what? Gosh. This is probably small potatoes to you by now but it’s rage fuel for me. The gall that people have to think they’re entitled to leave an open opinion on what you “should do” in order to please them. Disgusting.

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          23 hours ago

          Aside from being super awful, how can that possibly actually be a known fact though?

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              17 hours ago

              This question isn’t about trusting the word of women. I explained it in another comment. It’s just, how can we know this happens every day of every woman’s life if we didn’t have every woman’s account at the end of their life? It seems practically impossible to be able to logically truthfully make this claim. 😅

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                17 hours ago

                My b. No it doesn’t happen every day. Some days we don’t go out. Some days we manage to avoid most men.

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                  17 hours ago

                  Are you saying it does happen every single time you go outside if you don’t make an effort to avoid the men? Just so I’m reading you correctly.

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              18 hours ago

              I’m sorry if I’m being unclear. This isn’t about trust or validity of a woman’s word. It’s just, how can we possibly know if this happens to every woman every day for their entire lives if we haven’t asked every woman or every woman said it is so? I know many women for whom this isn’t true, e.g. And that’s just in my personal circle of friends. Imagine how many others there are to deny the claim.

              But of course, basically all of them have experienced it at some point in their lives, this is definitely the case, as my female friends tend to open up about those things to me for some reason (which I appreciate).

              I guess I’m saying my question isn’t really about women and this issue per se, but the fact that we can’t know if something happens to every single person unless we communicated with them all. Logically, I mean.

              This isn’t really important, as a disclaimer. It’s just my OCD kicking in. 🖐️😅 The important bit is that it happens to basically every woman at some point, and that alone is not okay.