• onlinepersona@programming.dev
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          4 hours ago

          How long have Welsh people have internet? How many Welsh people have and had the means to archive the language, maybe even try and popularise it? How long was the Welsh government held back from (and probably they were) from teaching it a schools? Did nobody have the chance to create free, accessible Welsh courses for anybody to access? How many Welsh people that could speak it made an effort to teach their kids and others?

          There are options to keep language alive. I can understand it being wiped out (many examples and ways to do so), but if it survives and the people speaking it don’t make an effort to spread it, modernise it, and adapt, then it is also self-inflicted. Look at the Baltic countries. Estonia tries to keep up with the times and allows the population to vote on Estonian words that should enter their dictionary instead of the anglicised ones.

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            There was a suppression of the Welsh language in schools up until fairly recently.

            Now this has been reversed and Welsh is taught in schools, some state run schools are primarily Welsh language, and there are rules for government bodies to provide Welsh language documentation and signage.

            There’s also courses, tv and radio channels.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not

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            4 hours ago

            I don’t see how not doing the healing work for the wound is the same as self inflicted.

            All of those are questions are good historical questions that provide historical insight to the conditions that prevented this restoration of Welsh being as wide spread. But you write them as accusations, not as points for insight.

            And the wounds, while similar, are much older in the case of Welsh which means it could be harder to organize people to do the healing work.

            It’s very odd to me that you think this is self inflicted and that people aren’t doing the healing work. Why are you so sure? I’m assuming you’ve looked into it.

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              Why do you think I’m sure? Do questions assert certainty?

              You write as if you know what happened and why Welsh is dying out. Answer the questions then instead of whatever moral grandstanding you’re doing.

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                If you are going to put forward the thesis that a language’s decline is ‘self-inflicted,’ the responsibility lies with you to substantiate that claim with evidence, not to demand that I act as your research assistant. I have no obligation to answer your questions until you have demonstrated a genuine willingness to engage with the historical realities already presented.