• TimothyOilpants@lemmy.ca
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      20 hours ago

      No, I’m not. You’re attempting to justify the atrocities faced by innocent Americans as some necessary consequence of what I guess you argue is simultaneously a “free”, yet dangerously “wild” nation.

      My guess is that you looked up the actual numbers as instructed, realized that NO ONE in the world “needs” firearms to the degree that Americans claim to, and decided it would be easier to try and deflect rather than address the core argument of my position.

      Firearms hurt people. The more firearms there are in any given area, the more likely people are to be hurt by them. The VAST majority (like 85:1) of firearm injuries in the US are either self-inflicted, accidental, or crimes perpetrated against unarmed, innocent civilians.

      Statistically, the instances of problems solved by firearms in the United States represent an effect size so negligible that they frequently fall within the margin of error, barely rising above the threshold of statistical significance.

      US persons owning guns does NOTHING but create problems for US persons. Period.

      If you have a fetish, say so. If you think guns are fun, say so. But don’t use bullshit to try and hand wave away an epidemic caused by intellectual impotence and savage amorality.

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        17 hours ago

        I think you might need to go take your blood-pressure medication.

        You’re responding to points I never once made.

        All I said is that a small subset of the population has a legitimate reason for gun ownership. Hell, even Australia allows it.

        I own two guns. Guess where they are? On my mom’s farm because I have no reason to have them in the city.

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          17 hours ago

          Wow, you made it 3 whole comments before jumping to ad hominem… Good work kiddo.

          A lack of imagination, or lack of awareness of time tested human survival strategies is not “a legitimate reason”…

          Overstatement of necessity and recency bias are both logical fallacies.

          If you lack the skills, or intellectually require, the problem shortcut firearms provide, just say so… But stop stating your desires and opinions as though they are objective fact.

          Intelligent hominins have sustained and thrived for at least 1,800,000 years without firearms. If YOU can’t survive without one that’s what we call a YOU problem.

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            7 hours ago

            Lol, you’re one to talk about ad hominem attacks. Maybe don’t criticize someone who was responding to your attacks. It makes you a hypocrite.

            I’m capable of understanding that guns are useful tools when used safely and properly.

            Sure, people survived before guns existed, but people also got killed by wildlife a lot. Go ahead and walk around in hog country unarmed.

            But I never once said that anyone needed a gun, that’s just you putting words in my mouth. 90% of your responses to me have been strawmen.

            You’ve been arguing against things I’ve never once said, and have been attacking my character based on nothing but your own prejudices.

            Go fuck yourself.

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              7 hours ago

              Inarticulate expression of an indefensible position… You should learn how to communicate with less emotion.

              Have a good one champ.