Prison officers’ union calls for immediate end to practice at HMYOI Wetherby over fears for child and animal welfare

  • anon6789@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Prevention (ie. building maintenance) is the real first step. Rodents want food, warmth, shelter just like we do, so they want to get in places. Remove their access and then nothing needs to get killed, at least not by humans.

    Otherwise snap traps are largely considered the most humane, as they’re relatively reliable, and as long as things go as planned they are quick and effective compared to most anything else. Nothing is going to be 100% reliable, hence the right thing to do is not let them in, which again, as they’re housing large numbers of children, should be the priority of a halfway competent staff.

    • Jessicat@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Prevention definitely makes sense. So do snap traps, I just didn’t know if the old school method was considered as painless as possible. I don’t like poisons because of trophic concentration. Not currently dealing with rats but I do want chickens again someday so I’m sure I’ll face this question eventually.

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        20 hours ago

        Poisons kill in a pretty ugly way and make their way up the food chain as you said. Snap traps don’t work all the time, but using good ones minimizes the chances of suffering, but it’s still going to happen, that’s just somewhat unavoidable.

        I help with wildlife rescue and see the effects of poison on raptors, so I appreciate people not going to poison as a first option.

        • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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          14 hours ago

          The problem with snap traps is that rats are clever little bastards. If there’s more than one rat, the survivors quickly learn to avoid the traps if one of their peers gets its neck snapped.

          I own a big old house in a place where there are rats in the woods nearby. Closing off every potential rat entry point was a time-consuming pain in the ass, but it was pretty effective once it was finished.

          • anon6789@lemmy.world
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            13 hours ago

            I’m thankful the only rat I ever found was someone’s escaped pet. I enjoy the mice/rats as much as I do most other animals, whereas they just need to stay outside or in the clinic and we get along just fine. I’d rather block holes than hurt them, they’re just doing what they need to do for themselves after all.