At least this is the answer to the question I had “why OpenAI ‘donated’ all that money to rust foundation”
This sorts of formalizes something that always existed (“communicating with rust users in production”, “experience reports”, …etc). And it could be argued that centralizing and publicly documenting these activities is a positive move.
But this argument runs hollow in the presence of this potential start to a bureaucratic behemoth pushing towards a committee-centric model.
Best case scenario: this is just a (side-)gig bureaucratic job for the boys, which will largely be irrelevant as far the Rust project itself goes.
Thankfully, that scenario is not implausible.
Not sure what some of these clueless comments in this thread are about. Maybe stop treating every new news item as a connected next episode in a telenovela of grand conspiracies and big betrayal.
So Rust is getting a corporate death hug?
No. Rust is extremely popular in industry so corporations are supporting it.
Very very evil corporations. That’s alike to being supported by Adolf Hitler Inc.
Riiiiight. You might want to look up what Hitler actually did. It was just a little worse than anything these companies have done. Just a smidge.
A short while ago they got a big donation from OpenAI so this is certainly transactional.
It’s definitely a poisoned pill in my books :( I never got around to consider Rust but now I also likely never won’t :/
Hopefully not, if we take this at face value it’s about setting up the bureaucracy for dealing with issues related to using Rust in production, I haven’t been in the industry that long to know whether we should be alarmed but it doesn’t seem to be a move away from foss at least. The thing that worries me is that it may not just stop here.
oh you should definitely be alarmed - for anything these evilcorps stick their dirty, nasty fingers in. I am already frustrated they have rats in the C++ standardization committee - in a way I am glad C++ is not as hyped, so that evil corporations spend a relevant part of resources into targeting other languages. But hoo this is scary - if our language standards get compromised, developing open source will also require maintaining an open source version of any given programming language, along with a compiler. Now if newer compilers break the ABI (application binary interface), and the evilcorps lobby those compromised compilers into major OSes, we’ll be having a nightmare scenario where we can’t even use system dependencies any more.
This has largely worked out with Postgres. The trick is making sure you have a few different competing corporations so that they can’t force through anything without convincing all their competitors to support them. If done right the corporations end up paying for maintainers as well as to develop universally useful features. It’s better not to have the corporations involved, but if they’re going to be involved it’s better to have as many of them as you can get. The worst case scenario is only one or two corporations being heavily involved.
I doubt we have many “tricks” to employ as open source community against big money :/ This world has definitely evolved very very wrong on so many levels. At least I did not contribute by playing tech implementor for big money or surveillance states - but I know enough tech people who aren’t very principled on that matter :(
Couple of weeks ago here, I said rust has too much corporate and political hands in it and is drving away from FOSS. Most people disagreed.
See my other comment - I am not under the illusion any language is safe from that - but programming languages definitely should be protected from corporate fingers - only that I have no idea how to accomplish that :(
There should be a rule against posting from random websites rehashing an original source (and not doing it well, but that’s besides the point) then linking to it.
But I guess if this instance cared, it wouldn’t have gave space to a reposting spammer to begin with.
For one, linuxiac is a decent news outlet for open source and linux news
For 2, wdym “reposting spammer”, 2-year-old-account with-a whopping-13-posts lolol feel free to contribute more of your preferred sources to the threadiverse
So OpenAI invests a massive sum into Rust maintainers
And then Rust maintainers push out this setup?
Doesn’t that just illustrate that AI has no inherent value if they have to keep paying more people to use it?
