• [deleted]@piefed.world
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    24 days ago

    Sure, but if they say you have to be in control at all times to pass blame then they need to call it driver assist or something other than “full self driving”.

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      24 days ago

      They can call it whatever they want, the bottom line is that a human is behind the wheel and ultimately they’re responsible.

      And I think it has been well established at this point that fsd isn’t ready yet, that it’s not safe. The fact that they call it “full self driving” is cute… but it’s marketing, it’s not a get out of jail free card.

      Edit: Hah. So many down votes! Well go ahead, down vote personal responsibility! I mean, suggesting maybe people are responsible for the choices they make, fuck me right!

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        24 days ago

        Tesla should be held at least partially responsible for being intentionally misleading in how they named their fancy cruise control.

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            24 days ago

            That video is from 2 years ago, if you want to be a naysayer you have to keep up or the tech will march right past you.

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              23 days ago

              actually watch the damn video, tesla has gotten worse not better lol

              so everyone else over the last two years getting better just makes the gap worse

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                23 days ago

                well my car has driven 3892 of the last 3975 miles it has travelled, I don’t know what to tell you other than it works very well. Neither your hatred for progress nor some youtube grifter’s nonsense will convince me to disregard my lived experience.

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                  23 days ago

                  that’s great but loads of data shows otherwise

                  that ‘grifter’ owns a tesla and is much more involved with it than most randos so pardon me if i do ‘t care about your opinion

                  you wanna fanboi go for it but no one cares

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                    23 days ago

                    please share the data, I can’t find any hard data that doesn’t suggest it is safer than a human after an earnest effort

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                    23 days ago

                    fuck elon, but i dont have the money to pay another multinational an extra 15k for an EV that can’t drive itself

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      24 days ago

      Okay, so the name sucks, but if my kid breaks her laptop, I still gotta pay it. I didn’t break it. The kid broke it. But it’s still my responsibility.

      I don’t have a kid. If I did, I’d hope I had a kid who wouldn’t break nice things. But, let’s be real. Kids and cats break nice things. I also don’t have a Tesla. But if you own something (or you have a pet or a child) you are still responsible for what they do.

      It’s going to be interesting if we ever get those cars that go out on our behalf and do ride sharing gigs while we’re at work, earning back the money they spend keeping themselves charged. I wanna say one of the EV makers floated that idea. It never happened. But if it did, while you’re at work your car does damage. Who are they going to blame? Maybe you have insurance that covers it. But you’d still be responsible.

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        24 days ago

        This argument is just bonkers. Are you conflating a child and a corporations claim for a car to be fully self driving? These aren’t even comparable things.

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        24 days ago

        yeah if its named absolutely no liabilty to you we will take all the blame because we guarantee our car has full self driving capability. well thats just a name. it does not mean anything.

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          24 days ago

          Full self driving*

          *Not full self driving at all

          Seems fair and not confusing at all right?

          100% real gold that has the same value of real gold and is priced as such*

          *fake gold that is just spray painted dog shit

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            23 days ago

            yeah its rediculous to think someone would think something about something when its name is just a phrase that would suggest that.

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          23 days ago

          You may want to familiarize yourself with marketing, before you indict half the economy.

          But the name is “Fill Self Driving (Supervised)”. See, no fraud, just a balance of marketing and legaleze, lying and technicalities

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            23 days ago

            don’t care about business speak

            charge the rest of them too

            the world could do with less business majors