The fact is it would appear around here that unless you tow the line and save the stuff the left likes to hear people will attack you pretty mercilessly. I didn’t really come here to be liked. I came here thinking that there would be opportunity for intelligent conversation. And it’s Canadian was appealed to me.
But what I’m finding is a lot of hatred bigotry and if you don’t say the left thing and you’ll be attacked
The right is not contributing to those issues, the right is reacting to the bigotry and hatred etc. Kamala harris is entire campaign was that everyone Who didn’t agree with her was a Nazi and of course giggling. Hillary tried the same thing. Even here if I say something that doesn’t jive with the accepted truths instead of people addressing the points or making a counter argument what you see is nothing but personal attacks and people like you show up to say I should be towing the line.
That’s not a problem with the right. That’s a problem with you and the rest of the people here who are on the left. I’m not launching into personal attacks when I reply to people yet you look at the number of personal attacks I’ve gotten just for stating facts which are true but aren’t to their liking
I guess that depends on your definition of facts. If you objectively observed human behavioral trends, where do you think you would see higher instances of racism, classism, bigotry, self-righteousness, sexism, and prejudice would lie? Or if we were to dig historically into the roots of those behaviors, or how pervasive to society they’ve been. I don’t think it’s down to intelligence, people can be very knowledgeable and capable of the most terrible things. People can understand very little about the world and still choose to say that their neighbor is a neighbor. Unfortunately, there are negative echo chambers that exist that perpetuate fear of the ‘other’ or the ‘unnatural’ or just…’it didn’t happen to me so I don’t believe it happened to you’ or ‘the way I fixed the issue was special because it was me but nobody else should be allowed to have it’.
What is intelligent conversation to you by the way? Is it a discussion of true, verifiable facts (via peer reviewed research, holistic historical accounts, etc.) or one of initially civil opinion until someone throws a tantrum because they can’t convert the other?
My definition of facts tends to be an objective, verifiable reality or truth that can be proven to exist or have occurred. But the problem is you run into isn’t the definition of facts. It’s that people interpret facts and then it becomes subjective not objective.
For example many on the left claim it’s impossible to be racist towards a white person. So once you allow that creative definition then the question of where is racism coming from becomes a subjective thing.
There’s little doubt in my mind that of the last several years the vast majority of hatred and bigotry sexism and other negative things of a similar nature come from the left. In this very thread we have people on the left actively hoping that a duly elected president gets killed. You don’t see that anywhere nearly the same from the right. A simple example.
Right wing websites or channels tend to allow any discussion and left when people are free to express their views. I just got banned from a channel on this forum for daring to suggest that the renegood shooting could legitimately be argued to be self-defense for the police officer. Way too controversial had to kick me off that channel. Didn’t say it rude or anything. I’m not calling you names here or saying you’re a bad person because I don’t share the same views as you although I think some of you views are Highly Questionable. And I address your points directly with reason. But take a look at the response to me in this thread
There ought to be a warning note at the door saying left wing views only or the like 😁
And to me, intelligent conversation centers around the idea of addressing the issues and points raised by the other person in a reasoned and logical way while respecting them even if they differ in one opinion, rather than focusing on attacking the person or using cheap debate techniques such as sea lioning.
I mean we’re having a reasonably intelligent conversation right now aren’t we? You’re not calling me a capitalist running dog ignorant Pig Nazi fascist who wants to see all puppies and little children dead, and I’m not calling you a democrat 😆 (BAWAAAHAHA sorry couldn’t help it)
people can disagree, even passionately, and still respect the other person’s opinion. And still respect the person. I don’t have to hate someone just because they think renee good was murdered and if you hate me because i think she wasn’t then there’s something wrong with you. (this is just an example btw, wasn’t stating how you feel about it).
But I think some things should be universally accepted and if they’re not then there’s really not a lot of basis for discussion. Murder is bad, but the left is really pushing the idea that it isn’t these days. Killing a democratically elected president is bad yet here we are looking at people begging for it to happen and this is hardly unusual
If we can’t even agree that murder is bad it makes it very hard to have an intelligent conversation doesn’t it
I didn’t say you didn’t have time. I said to send you instead you’re spending your time Whining to me
I know this is a difficult concept for you. You’re the kind of guy who can get tripped up pretty easily if there’s more than one sentence. Hang in there kid you’ll get it
Entirely coherent and you should have a word with your English teacher if you think otherwise. But I guess if you can’t refute something then attacking the author and ad hominem attacks are really all you’ve got
I guess if you have no intelligent arguments and can’t rebut things that you didn’t like to hear then the easiest way to deal with it is just simply call people a troll. If that’s what helps you sleep at night then you go ahead. You don’t sound like the type that can afford therapy
The fact is it would appear around here that unless you tow the line and save the stuff the left likes to hear people will attack you pretty mercilessly. I didn’t really come here to be liked. I came here thinking that there would be opportunity for intelligent conversation. And it’s Canadian was appealed to me.
But what I’m finding is a lot of hatred bigotry and if you don’t say the left thing and you’ll be attacked
The right is not contributing to those issues, the right is reacting to the bigotry and hatred etc. Kamala harris is entire campaign was that everyone Who didn’t agree with her was a Nazi and of course giggling. Hillary tried the same thing. Even here if I say something that doesn’t jive with the accepted truths instead of people addressing the points or making a counter argument what you see is nothing but personal attacks and people like you show up to say I should be towing the line.
That’s not a problem with the right. That’s a problem with you and the rest of the people here who are on the left. I’m not launching into personal attacks when I reply to people yet you look at the number of personal attacks I’ve gotten just for stating facts which are true but aren’t to their liking
I guess that depends on your definition of facts. If you objectively observed human behavioral trends, where do you think you would see higher instances of racism, classism, bigotry, self-righteousness, sexism, and prejudice would lie? Or if we were to dig historically into the roots of those behaviors, or how pervasive to society they’ve been. I don’t think it’s down to intelligence, people can be very knowledgeable and capable of the most terrible things. People can understand very little about the world and still choose to say that their neighbor is a neighbor. Unfortunately, there are negative echo chambers that exist that perpetuate fear of the ‘other’ or the ‘unnatural’ or just…’it didn’t happen to me so I don’t believe it happened to you’ or ‘the way I fixed the issue was special because it was me but nobody else should be allowed to have it’.
What is intelligent conversation to you by the way? Is it a discussion of true, verifiable facts (via peer reviewed research, holistic historical accounts, etc.) or one of initially civil opinion until someone throws a tantrum because they can’t convert the other?
My definition of facts tends to be an objective, verifiable reality or truth that can be proven to exist or have occurred. But the problem is you run into isn’t the definition of facts. It’s that people interpret facts and then it becomes subjective not objective.
For example many on the left claim it’s impossible to be racist towards a white person. So once you allow that creative definition then the question of where is racism coming from becomes a subjective thing.
There’s little doubt in my mind that of the last several years the vast majority of hatred and bigotry sexism and other negative things of a similar nature come from the left. In this very thread we have people on the left actively hoping that a duly elected president gets killed. You don’t see that anywhere nearly the same from the right. A simple example.
Right wing websites or channels tend to allow any discussion and left when people are free to express their views. I just got banned from a channel on this forum for daring to suggest that the renegood shooting could legitimately be argued to be self-defense for the police officer. Way too controversial had to kick me off that channel. Didn’t say it rude or anything. I’m not calling you names here or saying you’re a bad person because I don’t share the same views as you although I think some of you views are Highly Questionable. And I address your points directly with reason. But take a look at the response to me in this thread
There ought to be a warning note at the door saying left wing views only or the like 😁
And to me, intelligent conversation centers around the idea of addressing the issues and points raised by the other person in a reasoned and logical way while respecting them even if they differ in one opinion, rather than focusing on attacking the person or using cheap debate techniques such as sea lioning.
I mean we’re having a reasonably intelligent conversation right now aren’t we? You’re not calling me a capitalist running dog ignorant Pig Nazi fascist who wants to see all puppies and little children dead, and I’m not calling you a democrat 😆 (BAWAAAHAHA sorry couldn’t help it)
people can disagree, even passionately, and still respect the other person’s opinion. And still respect the person. I don’t have to hate someone just because they think renee good was murdered and if you hate me because i think she wasn’t then there’s something wrong with you. (this is just an example btw, wasn’t stating how you feel about it).
But I think some things should be universally accepted and if they’re not then there’s really not a lot of basis for discussion. Murder is bad, but the left is really pushing the idea that it isn’t these days. Killing a democratically elected president is bad yet here we are looking at people begging for it to happen and this is hardly unusual
If we can’t even agree that murder is bad it makes it very hard to have an intelligent conversation doesn’t it
youve spent too long in the maga echo chamber. youre repeating absolutely nonsense talking points.
If that were true you’d have no trouble refusing it. But you can’t so personal attacks and that homonyms are your only choice.
We have zero responsibility to you to spend time disproving your old ass bullshit.
You’re not clever. Nothing you’re saying is original.
So instead you’ll spend time telling me about how you don’t have time?
Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds??
Oh no, I have plenty of time to do that.
I said I have no responsibility to spend my time doing that. Not that I don’t have the time. I do.
I know it’s tough, but try to keep up. Maybe work on the reading comprehension a bit. It can suffer like that if you literally never read books.
I didn’t say you didn’t have time. I said to send you instead you’re spending your time Whining to me
I know this is a difficult concept for you. You’re the kind of guy who can get tripped up pretty easily if there’s more than one sentence. Hang in there kid you’ll get it
any idea how stupid you sound?
Oh look! You’ve learned basic mockery skills! If you keep working hard soon you’ll be almost as smart as a parrot! Your parents must be so proud😆
Literally incoherent. Have you ever read anything that wasn’t a social media post?
Entirely coherent and you should have a word with your English teacher if you think otherwise. But I guess if you can’t refute something then attacking the author and ad hominem attacks are really all you’ve got
Asking if you’ve read a book is only ad hominem if you’re little fucking piss baby.
Okay, lying definitely makes it better on your part
yeah, didn’t lie.
Sure kid 🙄🙄
The phrase is “toe the line,” pseudo-intellectual right wing dumbass.
Your ideas don’t matter. You don’t matter.
aww muffin. Have a cookie and a nap; you’ll be fine
Guys, he’s got us here. There’s just no way to respond to this come back. We’re cooked.
I’ve already registered republican.
That seems like you’re not being honest. In which case you’re probably better off staying democrat 😂😂
Ah OK, so you’re just a troll. Got it.
I don’t think even actual Repubilcans pretend that their party is honest anymore.
I guess if you have no intelligent arguments and can’t rebut things that you didn’t like to hear then the easiest way to deal with it is just simply call people a troll. If that’s what helps you sleep at night then you go ahead. You don’t sound like the type that can afford therapy