• ryannathans@aussie.zone
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    16 hours ago

    Why is it inherently unethical to kill and eat animals? Let’s say I raise some free range chickens on my land, consume their eggs and occasionally eat one. Why is this unethical?

    I’d argue it’s unethical to kill animals inhumanely or to force them to live so long they suffer like we do with many pets

    • lookingforanALFpolycule@lemmy.world
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      13 hours ago

      Good question :)

      1. Most people imagine only female chickens which means the male chicks are killed soon after birth which is unethical

      2. Chickens eat their non fertilized eggs to recoup the nutrients it takes to lay them so stealing them has negative consequences for their health (eg fragile bones) causing which is unethical

      3. The idea itself that you can take something from someone else just because you are stronger or smarter and they can’t stop you is the mindset of an oppressor or a bully and is inherently unethical

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        6 hours ago
        1. Is easily fixed by just not killing the male chickens
        2. Is easily fixed by giving your chickens nutritionally balanced food
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        12 hours ago

        The animals are also guilty of #3 , but two wrongs don’t make a right

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          7 hours ago

          Yea, what animals do is not considered ethical in plenty of cases. We wouldn’t kill someone else’s baby because “lions do infanticide too” right :p

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        13 hours ago
        1. has nothing to do with the ethics of killing
        2. again, the same (especially if they are kept in good nutrition, shells returned, etc.)
        3. they aren’t a person, and that would make all of nature existing unethical
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          9 hours ago

          they aren’t a person, and that would make all of nature existing unethical

          are you a person? ethics and morality are human concepts…

          arguing that eating meat isn’t unethical because it happens in “nature” is like arguing you should be allowed to rape people because ducks do it…

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      15 hours ago

      Exactly, I do just this with my dogs and these fucking militant vegans always be on my case.