• scarabic@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    Hank Green has earned the right, with me anyway, to have his point of view heard. And frankly he has more credibility with me than the garden variety pitchfork-wielding anti-AI mob. I think Hank is a person who finds AI interesting and sees upsides as well as downsides. But the aforementioned mob is not interested in anything other than the emotional catharsis of railing against something they hate.

    Now ask me if the mob is in the room with us, because it probably is.

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      16 hours ago

      His AI use caused him so many problems in his private life that his family had to intervene. His point of view is “This technology has had a negative impact on my life and the lives of the people I care about”.

      Your pro-AI spiel is a bit tone deaf here

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          37 minutes ago

          That’s probably why he wrote an in depth explanation of what he did, his motive, how it affected him etc.

          His public posts on the matter were not made for the people who actually know him.

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        16 hours ago

        But they didn’t say anything pro-AI. At most they were anti-anti-AI mob, which is just reasonable, as is with any “mob”. And I read mob here as mindless parrots that keep repeating talking points and hating for the sake of conformity.

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          15 hours ago

          Being anti-anti something is being pro-something. That’s the beauty of the double negative.

          Also that’s just a very pro-AI user, so the intent can be inferred

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            9 hours ago

            That’s… Not how any of that works?! You can be anti chat bot llm, anti anti ai mob hater, and pro llm science and research bot.

            There’s more to the tech then just the chat bots the anti ai mob dipshits all seem to think of when llms come up.

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              3 hours ago

              That’s exactly how that works lmao. “Anti” means “opposite”, not some neutral third thing

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                2 hours ago

                anti-anti-AI ≠ pro-AI, it assumes there’s only anti-AI and pro-AI and nothing in between.
                And the wording was clearly about the anti-AI mob as opposed to people who understand the dangers and benefits of AI. It’s similar to the difference between a Gamer™ and a gamer.

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            You’re conflating two different somethings. Anti-AI mob is not the same as AI. Being against mob mentality doesn’t make you inherently pro AI.

            It’s possible to be pro or anti mob mentality and AI in various different combinations.

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          15 hours ago

          You’re on Lemmy… any statements about AI, Musk, trump, McConnell, etc that aren’t over-the-top against them will be met with downvotes.

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            15 hours ago

            Okay but why would anyone be anything but over-the-top against anything on your list?

            I mean, like, everything you listed is dog shit.

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              14 hours ago

              That’s what I keep fucking asking, Like how can anyone with half a brain be okay with any of them?

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              13 hours ago

              Because sometimes in life there are nuances and it is possible to mention one of those topics in a neutral manner, but the absolute hostility held here against anyone who tries to have a conversation beyond “_____ sucks ass!” is exhausting.

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        15 hours ago

        There wasn’t an intervention, he asked them about his AI use in response to the outrage and they agreed he’d been using it unhealthy.

        Seemed to me more along the lines of “do I have too much salt?” , “yeah you should cut back” ; Then “your coke problem is tearing this family apart”

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          13 hours ago

          He said they “did not pull any punches” which implies it was a more blunt conversation than you’re suggesting.

          Hank Green himself describes his relationship with AI the same way you would an addiction, and specifically mentions the dopamine reaction driving his use of it to a point where he became overwhelmed by it.

          He’s not describing a casual discussion about table salt, he’s literally describing a drug/alcohol addiction.

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      13 hours ago

      That’s fair. It’s a new technology, we need trusted people to explore it and tell us what their experience was. I don’t think we have very many trusted people left

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        13 hours ago

        Ok, I guess you were too busy fondling Gr0ks and gipeettys balls to type out a constructive response. Are these how you’d like them to participate in your silicon fetish?