If I understand it right, the moderator of the mastodon.world instance has blocked several posts by Hasnain Kazim, as Kazim reported yesterday on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/661473263/posts/10163657720033264/

Kazim is a quite famous and successful book author in Germany and something between left, conservative and liberal. He was journalist for the most important German weekly news magazine Spiegel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasnain_Kazim?wprov=sfla1

Canceling his posts is stupid and certainly completely exaggerated. To me from the external perspective it seems that the moderator is abusing his power. He is damaging free and respectful discussion. Furthermore, when a famous person like Kazim reports those experiences to his broad audience, who do not understand the functioning of the fediverse, the moderator also damages Mastodon in general significantly, it seems to me.

What do you think about this case ?

  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    65·
    11 hours ago

    Nope. He was simply stating the fact that arabic-language comments in international media have a large majority of people celebrating the guy who weaponized his car and killed people at Berlin Pride with it, and that this was a large problem. After that comment was deleted, he cited it with the additional comment that he had been censured by the mod and that this was pretty astounding.

    This means that the Mastodon.world mod neither likes when it is shown up that arabs are celebrating when someone kills gay people in germany, and that he has very thin skin regarding critique towards his moderation style.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      83·
      11 hours ago

      After that comment was deleted, he cited it with the additional comment

      …

      So, if we take you’re unsourced opinion as fact…

      1. He had a comment removed

      2. He reposted the same comment with even more “context”

      3. Mods banned him

      And now you’re shocked and want people to be outraged because Mastodon worked as intended?

      You want us to…

      Do what exactly? Stop using the instance none of us are using? Go yell at a mod because they did what they volunteered to do?

      • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
        43·
        9 hours ago

        The perp wanted to join ISIS, you really think the same social group that danced in the streets after 9/11 is unable to praise someone running over gay people?

        https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/1v8u3xo/seeing_many_muslim_justify_even_blatantly_support/

        Deleting his comment means the mod either agrees with ISIS, or would rather silence others who condemn these reactions than stand with them. The ban makes me think more about the first category.

        I just wanted to set the record straight. He didn’t pull the reactions of these people out of his ass, and he was communicating that this is a dangerous development. (might be inviting copycats) And he’s right! Everyone celebrating this hates gay people - it is gravely concerning, similar to neonazis praising a perp when they murder an immigrant.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          6 hours ago

          Oh wow…

          People still using reddit said inflammatory things?!

          Next you’re going to tell me everyone on twitter is actually the same person as their profile pic.

          • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
            11·
            4 hours ago

            The people using arabic in online comments are of course not 100% arabs, but i’d bet 80%+are. And i am pretty sure that if you concentrate on those using arabic in international media who are fine with gay people dying, that this percentage gets a lot closer to 100%.

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              4 hours ago

              There’s billions of Muslims…

              So you could literally show me 10s of millions that are dicks, and I’ll say that means thos 10s of millions of people are dicks.

              I wouldn’t say that means all the billions of Muslims are dicks.

              You could sub “Muslim” for any demographic, my logic would stay the same because I’m not a fucking bigot.

              • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
                11·
                4 hours ago

                If you ignore how these cultures abuse and kill their LGBT population with death sentences based on religious law, you are a bigot, because you wouldn’t be that lenient if for example catholic italy would do the same.

                • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  3 hours ago

                  Again:

                  The actions of even 10s of millions doesn’t give you a reason to judge all 2+ billion.

                  It’s based on “religious law” by the interpretation of extremists.

                  Something shared with the other two Abrahmic religions and multiple others.

                  But at this point you are being explicitly bigoted and don’t have ignorance as an excuse

                  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
                    11·
                    3 hours ago

                    Thats the problem here: i don’t see any countries where laws are based on the bible and interpreted in a way that legitimizes murder of minorities based on their gender and orientation, and especially not such a widespread usage of sharia law.

                    You can educate me if you know of any that do so currently, and i know that not everything is peachy in all countries (especially since Trump 2 in the US), but by and large this behaviour is not socially accepted and for sure our judges don’t condemn anyone to death for being gay.

                    Sharia is fundamentally incompatible with democracy, and also in my view incompatible with human rights. And you are falling victim to the “no true scotsman” fallacy - denying that Muslims stance towards LGBT in general is absolutely abhorrent and often deadly where they have power doesn’t help anyone.