The turnover in generations is all that evolutionary success is. It’s the mechanism that’s been driving life on earth for three billion years. It doesn’t mean that the individual life form is happy or comfortable … it just means it lived long enough to create another generation.
Then call it reproductive success instead of dishonestly causing it evolutionary success. And I didn’t state that evolution requires or doesn’t require anything, you brought that up - we’re talking about whether it’s considered successful, which is a philosophical question.
Artificial selection is not a reflection of a species’ ability to survive in the natural world and to me that is not an example of success over the longer, think-billions-of-years, term.
You’re implying that I’m making a case for evolution achieving some sort of perfection, and linking that to a definition of success, which, again, isn’t what I said.
If you can’t have an honest conversation about it then I’m not interested. I don’t doubt that you understand evolution, you’ve said enough to demonstrate that, but you certainly do not understand the point I’m making.
The original comment I replied to made a definition of evolutionary success and I made a counter-definition. I’m not sure what conversation that you’re referring to before that. There was only one other comment above it in the chain and it had little do with defining the evolutionary success of chickens or what that might entail.
If you’re perceiving an agenda where there is none while also not understanding the point being made then, not to be rude, but thats a comprehension issue.
It’s possible I’m explaining it poorly, but I’ve run out of ways to approach this so I can’t offer you anything more.
The turnover in generations is all that evolutionary success is. It’s the mechanism that’s been driving life on earth for three billion years. It doesn’t mean that the individual life form is happy or comfortable … it just means it lived long enough to create another generation.
Can you describe where natural selection occurs in a battery farming process?
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Then call it reproductive success instead of dishonestly causing it evolutionary success. And I didn’t state that evolution requires or doesn’t require anything, you brought that up - we’re talking about whether it’s considered successful, which is a philosophical question.
Artificial selection is not a reflection of a species’ ability to survive in the natural world and to me that is not an example of success over the longer, think-billions-of-years, term.
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You’re implying that I’m making a case for evolution achieving some sort of perfection, and linking that to a definition of success, which, again, isn’t what I said.
If you can’t have an honest conversation about it then I’m not interested. I don’t doubt that you understand evolution, you’ve said enough to demonstrate that, but you certainly do not understand the point I’m making.
And billions was an autocorrect.
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Sorry for a second comment but, by agenda, are you implying that I’m anti evolution?
The original comment I replied to made a definition of evolutionary success and I made a counter-definition. I’m not sure what conversation that you’re referring to before that. There was only one other comment above it in the chain and it had little do with defining the evolutionary success of chickens or what that might entail.
If you’re perceiving an agenda where there is none while also not understanding the point being made then, not to be rude, but thats a comprehension issue.
It’s possible I’m explaining it poorly, but I’ve run out of ways to approach this so I can’t offer you anything more.
I can, it’s in the humans. Survival of the fittest, the humans are smart enough to allow a fuck ton of chickens
Er, yeah, I agree with that. Nothing to do with my point, but you are correct.