• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    9 months ago

    Nuclear and renewables are complementary technologies, renewables are a much more volatile source of energy. Also, when people say renewables are cheaper they’re not counting the total lifecycle of things like wndmills and solar panels.

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      when people say renewables are cheaper they’re not counting the total lifecycle of things like… solar panels.

      Yeah the LCOE of solar is likely ridiculously low because they still work decades after th started 25 year life used in levelised cost calculations

      Nuclear in the west is so tremendously expensive we may as give up until China makes SMRs cheap

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        I mean China is already making all the solar panels at this point, so we might as well wait for them to role out nuclear globally.

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            9 months ago

            I do think it’s very likely that we’ll see fusion working within our lifetimes. If China manages to get a fusion plant online then that really will solve all the energy problems for the foreseeable future.

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      Complimentary is irrelevant. Coal and solar are complimentary, you can have a grid using both of those technologies. Renewables aren’t really that volatile. Batteries exist.

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        Yes coal and solar are complementary. But nuclear pollutes less than coal so it’s a better choice.

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              9 months ago

              Ad hominem again. This is no way to have a constructive discussion. Please use arguments to support your position and don’t attack the opposition personally.

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                    I’ve already explained my argument to you repeatedly in multiple comments as have other people. Unfortunately, you’ve amply demonstrated lack of basic reading comprehension required to understand and respond to such arguments. Therefore there is no need to repeat these arguments. If you feel personally attacked when people point that out to you, that’s entirely your problem.

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                You don’t understand what ad hominem means. Ad hominem isn’t just when you insult someone. Ad hominem is when you attempt to logically refute a point by using the speaker’s character as a source of evidence.

                Ad hominem example:

                My opponent argues that 2+2=7. He always got F’s in math, therefore this must be wrong.

                No ad hominem, just insulting:

                My opponent argues that 2+2=7. We can prove this is wrong by plugging into a calculator. Also, an irrelevant detail, he is stupid and bad at math.

                My comment could not have made any logical fallacy because I made no attempt at logic or making an argument. All I intended was an insult. Again, username checks out.

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                  9 months ago

                  I dont think that’s right. Here’s a helpful definition:

                  The definition of ‘ad hominem’

                  In Latin, ‘ad hominem’ means “against the person.” In an ad hominem argument, the person attacks the source of the argument rather than the argument itself. In other words, when the argument makes personal attacks rather than dealing with the subject at hand, it’s ad hominem.

                  Source: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365-life-hacks/writing/what-does-ad-hominem-mean

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                    Again, I made no attempt at making an argument, so my statement could not be an ad hominem argument.

                    When someone made fun of you in school, did you say “well, akshually, that’s ad hominem ☝️🤓”