• Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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        There’s even less privacy if I have to have the WhatsApp app installed on my phone to send that message.

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        You have the big plus of not having the WhatsApp app installed and snooping around with all those permissions it has.

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        Would it not be E2EE? Isn’t that one of the reasons for using the Signal protocol?

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          Yes, the “delivering” part would be E2EE. Do we really know the afterwards if they can read their users’ messages? They probably can.

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            Whatsapp CANNOT read messages when e2ee is enabled, this client-side snooping was discussed when the protocol was first implemented. Whatsapp collects a ton of metadata and social graph info, but not message content.

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            Sure, but any messaging app (including Signal) could have these backdoors in place. Heck, there’s even vectors for unrelated apps on your phone to read this data once unencrypted.

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          if i remember correctly, it would be E2EE (WhatsApp and Messenger are too) but Meta stores the encrypted message on their server

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        Them being nonprofit has nothing to do with the pursuit of marketshare. Plenty of nonprofits want to maximize marketshare. Them being nonprofit means they are mission-driven.

        And what is that mission?

        Per the Signal Foundation’s website:

        Protect free expression and enable secure global communication through open source privacy technology.

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          Them being nonprofit has nothing to do with the pursuit of marketshare.

          Um, of course it does? LOL

          Them being nonprofit means they are mission-driven.

          And what is that mission?

          Let’s talk about what the opposite of their mission is: Mainly operating as a source of data collection and revenue for a corporate surveillance and advertising agency.

          Do they want more users? Sure. Are they going to compromise on their core principles out of convenience for their users? Abso-fuckin-lutely not.