I find it funny that when people from other instances disagree with something here, they introduce themselves in a similar fashion as you:
I’m an advocate for democracy, human rights, and civil liberty with an aversion to harm
Every socialist is an advocate for these things as well. How can someone advocate for workplace democracy without being an advocate for democracy in general? Isn’t working to alleviate poverty (like China, where they have already lifted 700+ million people out of it) a victory for human rights? Isn’t a system where everyone is accountable and can’t use their wealth to circumvent the law an improvement for civil liberties? And lastly, every human who isn’t a psychopath has an aversion to harm…
Meanwhile, liberalism also claims to advocate for these things, but with no actions to back them. How can someone claim that choosing which rich people party to vote for every 4 years is democratic? Yet most people don’t challenge this claim. How can someone claim to be an advocate for human rights but take no action against homelessness and poverty? Historically, why is it that most (if not all) human rights declarations happened in slave-owning and/or imperialist countries?
Oh, I’m sorry, I thought this was a discussion about acknowledging the death and harm caused by capitalism. Is that not what this discussion was about? Why are you suddenly changing the subject? Let’s roll with it, then.
Average quality of life in every imaginable facet has improved over the last century in almost every country, China just had a lower starting point before catching up to the modern world, most of which was done between the 70s and 90s. One growing problem in China is Homelessness as rural and migrant workers numbering in the hundreds of millions are ineligible for housing in the cities they work in because their Hukou designation is elsewhere. China has 814 Billionaires if you include Hong Kong and Macau. Just like the USA and Europe they have rising youth unemployment and constant banking crisis.
Historically, why is it that most (if not all) human rights declarations happened in slave-owning and/or imperialist countries?
This statement shows a severe lack of historical awareness about eastern nations including China. By the pound, there has been more bloodshed over class disputes there than any other corner of the earth.
I find it funny that when people from other instances disagree with something here, they introduce themselves in a similar fashion as you:
Every socialist is an advocate for these things as well. How can someone advocate for workplace democracy without being an advocate for democracy in general? Isn’t working to alleviate poverty (like China, where they have already lifted 700+ million people out of it) a victory for human rights? Isn’t a system where everyone is accountable and can’t use their wealth to circumvent the law an improvement for civil liberties? And lastly, every human who isn’t a psychopath has an aversion to harm…
Meanwhile, liberalism also claims to advocate for these things, but with no actions to back them. How can someone claim that choosing which rich people party to vote for every 4 years is democratic? Yet most people don’t challenge this claim. How can someone claim to be an advocate for human rights but take no action against homelessness and poverty? Historically, why is it that most (if not all) human rights declarations happened in slave-owning and/or imperialist countries?
Oh, I’m sorry, I thought this was a discussion about acknowledging the death and harm caused by capitalism. Is that not what this discussion was about? Why are you suddenly changing the subject? Let’s roll with it, then.
Average quality of life in every imaginable facet has improved over the last century in almost every country, China just had a lower starting point before catching up to the modern world, most of which was done between the 70s and 90s. One growing problem in China is Homelessness as rural and migrant workers numbering in the hundreds of millions are ineligible for housing in the cities they work in because their Hukou designation is elsewhere. China has 814 Billionaires if you include Hong Kong and Macau. Just like the USA and Europe they have rising youth unemployment and constant banking crisis.
This statement shows a severe lack of historical awareness about eastern nations including China. By the pound, there has been more bloodshed over class disputes there than any other corner of the earth.
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