Steven Pinker explains the cognitive biases we all suffer from and how they can short-circuit rational thinking and lead us into believing stupid things. Skip to 12:15 to bypass the preamble.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Is it because they’re not really smart and they try to learn things from youtube rather than reading?

    • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      What if I read the transcript in book form?

      You’re attacking the medium rather than the content. You can learn things from video just as you can a lecture.

      Books aren’t special. And they can be very wrong too.

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        5 months ago

        You can learn things from video just as you can a lecture.

        So…

        You think people walk into lectures completely unprepared, listen for 25 minute, and walk out and they magically have learned stuff?

        Maybe you’re just still in highschool, or never took a serious class in college.

        How it works is:

        1. Do the reading.

        2. Attend the lecture while taking notes.

        3. Review the notes

        4. Then later, after doing this with different topics, reviewing the same information again.

        Books aren’t special. And they can be very wrong too.

        There’s a lot bigger barrier of entry, compared to uploading a video to fucking YouTube.

        You know what’s crazier? There’s still a shit ton more reasons, but I already know that even if you have managed to read this far, you can’t remember the 1-4 steps without looking back up.

        Reading let’s you do that, quickly scan the text for what you want and referring to it.

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          5 months ago

          Maybe you’re just still in highschool, or never took a serious class in college.

          Yeah, I hope you’re not expecting a response with a tone like that. Bye

    • streetlights@lemmy.worldOP
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      5 months ago

      Not a bad guess. The moving picture medium has been around for a while though and complements the written word, rather than supplant it, as a tool for learning.

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        5 months ago

        You want to learn how to get a garbage disposal unstuck?

        Watch a YouTube video.

        You want to learn to learn about psychological concepts in 25 minutes by watching a video?

        Cool, it won’t ever work but I respect your wishes.

        But no smart person would believe just watching a quick video is actually learning anything more advanced then: there’s a place for an Allen key under the disposal

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          5 months ago

          You want to learn to learn about psychological concepts in 25 minutes by watching a video? Cool, it won’t ever work but I respect your wishes.

          It’s an interview with an eminent scientist discussing some key ideas. No, you won’t walk away with a comprehensive knowledge of the entire field, the format isn’t designed for that.

          But no smart person would believe just watching a quick video is actually learning anything more advanced then: there’s a place for an Allen key under the disposal

          So documentaries are garbage as well then? Anything using video as a medium? Do you attend lectures in person or do wait for the transcript?

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            As someone who has worked on documentaries, depending on your definition of “garbage,” yes. They are. Because all of them, every single one, is not only edited to show the biased perspective of both the director and the producers, along with the editor themselves, they are also filled with things like added sound-effects, narration that misconstrues what is going on or just adds emotion when emotion is not warranted based on the original footage, taking things out of context to improve the storyline, etc.

            For example, the best David Attenborough nature documentary you can think of is full of artifice. Almost none of the animal sounds in nature documentaries were collected at the same time as the video because they’re usually shooting from quite a distance and either the microphone is too directional, in which case you have to add background noise in post or they don’t have enough of a directional microphone, in which case you have to add the noise you want in post. Occasionally, these days, software is used to isolate certain noises. That, again, is artifice.

            So no, you cannot trust anything you see in a documentary. Ever. The only truths you should ever trust in a film of any sort is the truths you learn about yourself from watching it. Anything else could be a lie.

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              Almost none of the animal sounds in nature documentaries were collected at the same time as the video because they’re usually shooting from quite a distance and either the microphone is too directional.

              That doesn’t make it garbage.

              every single one, is not only edited to show the biased perspective of both the director and the producers, along with the editor themselves

              With that restriction, all education is garbage. Professors have bias, even in hard sciences.

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                  5 months ago

                  My claim is that making the animal sounds clearer so that there is no confusion for the listener is not garbage under any definition.

                  Replacing the original with a better representation is exactly what you want for education.

                  Am I learning the sound of a finch or a cardinal? How can I learn if both are singing at the same time because that’s what actually happened in the real life filming?

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                    5 months ago

                    My claim is that making the animal sounds clearer so that there is no confusion for the listener is not garbage under any definition.

                    And if that were the only thing I said, you’d have a point.

                    It was far from the only thing I said.

                    In fact, you’re even misrepresenting that part of what I said. I said that occasionally software is used to clarify audio. Far more often, it’s just added in post from a sound effect library or foley artist. It may not even be a noise that animal ever makes.

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            5 months ago

            Hold still and I’ll go make a YouTube video for you.

            I don’t know why I thought you were going to get anything out of the written word.

            Just wait right there and I’ll scream some buzzwords into a microphone for you, and tell you that you’re smarter than everyone. Because you may be able to remember some of those buzzwords, but not what they actually mean.

            Disruption! Synergy! The Singularity!

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