I don’t know why we’re sharing this. This is a bad purchase and a poor use-case. Also this guy just churns out these benchmark videos for Mini PCs like they’re going out of style.
EDIT: I waited a few weeks to make sure I still wanted one, so that this couldn’t be considered an impulse purchase. It is, in fact, awesome. More powerful than a PS4 Pro in such a small, light, quiet package. I’m definitely using this as my fighting game machine when I travel and need to set up a casuals station. Not only is it significantly more performant than a Steam Deck, it ought to be less cumbersome to set up than a Steam Deck and dock.
The form factor is why this thing is cool though. I know a handful of tournament organizers who love how much better these things have gotten. (Also, this is using about a tenth of the energy that your ATX build will likely use.)
What’s cool about spending ridiculous amounts of money on needlessly small products?
$550 is ridiculous? You’re not getting much more power in an ATX build if you’re only filling a 1080p display anyway.
Like Minesweeper tournaments?
Skullgirls, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R, basically anything retro and emulated, Puyo Puyo. Take your pick. This thing can run Street Fighter 6, and let me tell you how many problems there are with running it on a PS5, even if it outputs a better image…Sony really made things harder for everyone.
Because it’s doing a tenth as much work.
Exactly! Now you’re getting it!
And also, most game-playing time worldwide is spent on games that are over ten years old and don’t need a lot of power. If you want the form factor more than power that you don’t need, you may as well lower your energy bill and the amount of space this thing takes up in your home.
You’re not getting much more power in an ATX build if you’re only filling a 1080p display anyway.
Absolutely not correct.
Skullgirls, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R…
All of which you can run on an ATX…?
And also, most game-playing time worldwide is spent on games that are over ten years old and don’t need a lot of power.
I don’t think you’re getting it. If that’s what you want you can get a Steam Deck for $350 that does that, only it’s portable and has a display and controllers…Same goes for a laptop. Or you could just buy an ATX that can also run more demanding games. This is not complicated. There are a plethora of better alternatives.
I have a mini-PC from Minisforum (not this one) dedicated as a media computer in my living room. It can fit nicely inside the TV bench, which a regular sized computer wouldn’t do. I like that I can play games like Horizon: Zero Dawn on it without any issue. I love it, and I gave about 800 USD for it.
I am planning getting a high-end rig for my office later (next year maybe?), and then I of course will not consider a mini-PC.
I found ITX did, it did restrict my options however with my Ryzen 5 and RX6650 XT I can play everything at full detail and high resolutions. Linux is awesome with AMD hardware.
That’s probably true. However, I’m sure there are people out there who have very limited space and do not need that extra power for the games ey play.
Given the world these last few years, there have been many people who have been forced to downsize and get or become room mates or live in an RV. This doesn’t necessarily mean a person can’t enjoy a little downtime. The primary point is that every inch counts. Or so, she says.
Yup, it’s bottom of the barrel content. He also constantly engagement baits by asking people to comment if they want to see X or Y running on the machines he features, and he never actually does whatever he’s saying. It’s just a content farm.
He used to be good especially when the steam deck was first being released he did some good early videos on it. However it seems like in the last year or so every single minipc/handheld/etc vendor started sending him free review units and he feels compelled to do a video on every single one. He’s probably got rooms full of awesome tech stuff that isn’t being used, or he sells it.
I kinda stopped paying attention to him when he said oculink 4i has 8 lanes of pcie, or something like that.
Also him paying windows 11 any mind at all while acknowladging steam on Linux works fine for every game he tests is pretty cringe.
I wonder what happens with all the hardware that is not considered W11 ready when W10 goes EOL. And no, I don’t think “switch to Linux” mantra is solution for everyone. It sure is possible for a lot of home users, but I mean mainly those thousands and thousands of office/corp/workstation PCs with SW that simply can’t be moved to Linux. Is it simply going to be one huge middle finger from MS?
I kinda stopped paying attention to him when he said oculink 4i has 8 lanes of pcie, or something like that.
Yeah it’s very obvious that he speedruns these reviews. How can you expect him to properly test the hardware when he can’t even make sure the specs are accurate, or even give it just a quick spell-check?
I don’t know why we’re sharing this. This is a bad purchase and a poor use-case. Also this guy just churns out these benchmark videos for Mini PCs like they’re going out of style.
Sorry but can you explain why you think that?
Seriously, this thing looks awesome.
EDIT: I waited a few weeks to make sure I still wanted one, so that this couldn’t be considered an impulse purchase. It is, in fact, awesome. More powerful than a PS4 Pro in such a small, light, quiet package. I’m definitely using this as my fighting game machine when I travel and need to set up a casuals station. Not only is it significantly more performant than a Steam Deck, it ought to be less cumbersome to set up than a Steam Deck and dock.
You can buy an ATX form factor and get double the power for the same money. There’s no sense in using mobile processors in desktop PCs.
The form factor is why this thing is cool though. I know a handful of tournament organizers who love how much better these things have gotten. (Also, this is using about a tenth of the energy that your ATX build will likely use.)
What’s cool about spending ridiculous amounts of money on needlessly small products?
Like Minesweeper tournaments?
Because it’s doing a tenth as much work.
Why do you carry a smartphone around? Surely you could get more computing power per dollar if you just carried an ATX board around with you.
Uhhhh because it would be too big to fit in my pocket and it doesn’t have a display, and because it doesn’t do the things a smartphone does? 🤷
You don’t seem to understand that this is not a mobile device. It’s not a laptop. It doesn’t have peripherals or a display or anything…
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$550 is ridiculous? You’re not getting much more power in an ATX build if you’re only filling a 1080p display anyway.
Skullgirls, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R, basically anything retro and emulated, Puyo Puyo. Take your pick. This thing can run Street Fighter 6, and let me tell you how many problems there are with running it on a PS5, even if it outputs a better image…Sony really made things harder for everyone.
Exactly! Now you’re getting it!
And also, most game-playing time worldwide is spent on games that are over ten years old and don’t need a lot of power. If you want the form factor more than power that you don’t need, you may as well lower your energy bill and the amount of space this thing takes up in your home.
Absolutely not correct.
All of which you can run on an ATX…?
I don’t think you’re getting it. If that’s what you want you can get a Steam Deck for $350 that does that, only it’s portable and has a display and controllers…Same goes for a laptop. Or you could just buy an ATX that can also run more demanding games. This is not complicated. There are a plethora of better alternatives.
Feel free to price out the build that beats these things by a wide margin.
Try carrying around a dozen ATX machines while I carry around a dozen of these. You’ll see why TOs prefer the smaller, lighter machine.
It sure isn’t.
Strap it to the back of a VR headset or on your hip to get on the go “cordless” linux VR
I have a mini-PC from Minisforum (not this one) dedicated as a media computer in my living room. It can fit nicely inside the TV bench, which a regular sized computer wouldn’t do. I like that I can play games like Horizon: Zero Dawn on it without any issue. I love it, and I gave about 800 USD for it.
I am planning getting a high-end rig for my office later (next year maybe?), and then I of course will not consider a mini-PC.
I found ITX did, it did restrict my options however with my Ryzen 5 and RX6650 XT I can play everything at full detail and high resolutions. Linux is awesome with AMD hardware.
Why ATX when you can go MiniITX?
I do have an Ryzen 7 5700G in my DeskMini A300. But had to cut a hole in the case for the cooler.
For the same reason. You get the Mini-tax.
That’s probably true. However, I’m sure there are people out there who have very limited space and do not need that extra power for the games ey play.
Given the world these last few years, there have been many people who have been forced to downsize and get or become room mates or live in an RV. This doesn’t necessarily mean a person can’t enjoy a little downtime. The primary point is that every inch counts. Or so, she says.
Then they can spend less money on a less powerful ATX system. I don’t understand where the confusion is coming from.
Please re-read my post. I said multiple times that a small form factor is crucial in some situations.
ATX = full desktop form factor Mini-ITX = smaller OP video = compact
It’s not always about money. It’s not always about raw power either.
People just have different interests/needs.
Yup, it’s bottom of the barrel content. He also constantly engagement baits by asking people to comment if they want to see X or Y running on the machines he features, and he never actually does whatever he’s saying. It’s just a content farm.
He used to be good especially when the steam deck was first being released he did some good early videos on it. However it seems like in the last year or so every single minipc/handheld/etc vendor started sending him free review units and he feels compelled to do a video on every single one. He’s probably got rooms full of awesome tech stuff that isn’t being used, or he sells it.
I kinda stopped paying attention to him when he said oculink 4i has 8 lanes of pcie, or something like that.
Also him paying windows 11 any mind at all while acknowladging steam on Linux works fine for every game he tests is pretty cringe.
Wut? But is good for comparison.
Windows 11 is trash and deserves no attention whatsoever
Sure, but lots of people are looking to install it anyway because they “need” it to play Valorant or whatever.
Does it not run on windows 10?
Oh, maybe? Windows 10 EOL is coming up soon, though, so Windows 11 is relevant for almost all Windows 10 users.
I wonder what happens with all the hardware that is not considered W11 ready when W10 goes EOL. And no, I don’t think “switch to Linux” mantra is solution for everyone. It sure is possible for a lot of home users, but I mean mainly those thousands and thousands of office/corp/workstation PCs with SW that simply can’t be moved to Linux. Is it simply going to be one huge middle finger from MS?
Yeah it’s very obvious that he speedruns these reviews. How can you expect him to properly test the hardware when he can’t even make sure the specs are accurate, or even give it just a quick spell-check?
It’s a washed out channel indeed.